Packers -v- 49ers game week conversation

[Patler]

As a funny side note, it would be fun to send out our relentless retard to maul Moss and Crabtree at the line. Bush, if nothing else, can frustrate the shit out of a WR trying to get off the line.

Huh?

[Tony Oday]

I think we will destroy the 49ers...three scores minimum

[rbaloha1]

Yeah, I don't really see an edge to exploit on that line, but even if Benson averaged 3.8 ypc against the 49ers, Kuhn would average 2.8 ypc. That extra yard can be the difference between honesty and playing the pass 100%.

Its not about the avg. -- it is about attempts in order for play action to work.

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Its not about the avg. -- it is about attempts in order for play action to work.

Right, but if you don't respect the runner, you don't bite as hard on the play action. Play might still work from a results stand point, but getting that big time bite is only going to come from a legitimate threat. If the Packers had me out there as running back, you wouldn't see the linebackers cheat up at all on the run action because they know they can still stop me without over-committing.

[ND72]

GB 34
SF 26

[RashanGary]

Right, but if you don't respect the runner, you don't bite as hard on the play action. Play might still work from a results stand point, but getting that big time bite is only going to come from a legitimate threat. If the Packers had me out there as running back, you wouldn't see the linebackers cheat up at all on the run action because they know they can still stop me without over-committing.

Reporter from NFLN asked 20 personnel men to answer 20 questions. One of the questions was, "who is the most physical defense." The team with the most votes. . . . San Francisco.

We are not going to run on them (period.)

Also, their base defense is as experienced and talented as any in the league. Their nickle/dime players are unproven. In order for us to get both their nickle and dime back on the field, we will need 4 legitimate passing weapons. SF won't do it unless they have to. Their base is so freaking strong, they want to stay in it. This is one game where we're going to have to spread it out and pass.

We don't have a back I would trust to protect Rodgers right now other than John Kuhn. If we spread it out, AR will get one back to protect him. ONE. Do you want that guy to be Benson (few weeks into a completely foreign offense) or Green (barely played 20 snaps in the NFL) to be the guy we count on to keep AR from getting killed by the most physical defense in football? I don't. Kuhn might be the best in the business at what he does, and what he does is understand the offense and pass protection as well as anyone (I've heard AR say the only guy who knows the offense as well as he does is John Kuhn.)

We're going to use him quite a bit, I just have a feeling. And it makes sense. Us trying to keep them honest with the run in this game. . . . I just think it's a joke. Them catching Benson or Green off guard and killing AR. . . I think there's a high likelyhood of that happening if we leave them alone in the backfield. Some day we'll count on them more in that spot, but week 1, against this team. I don't think it's the time to put that to the test.

[gbgary]

I think we will destroy the 49ers...three scores minimum

i was gonna say 2 tds. i like your thinking.

[RashanGary]

Most defenses we're going to light up like some icky sticky in Madtown's bowl, but this one, probably not. That affects our defense. Since Dom plays almost exclusive nickle, and since VD is the type of TE that almost forces you to anyway, SF is going to be in position to ram the ball down our throats.

The 2-4-5 defense we play, with Raji and a poor run stopper (Worthy/Daniels are our nickle players next to Raji) is defenseless against a good run offense. They'll just toss us around like ragdolls.

If you absolutely have to get that 5th defensive back on the field, I hope it doesn't come at the expense of a defensive lineman in this game. I'd rather see Hawk taken off the field than CJ Wilson even. We need big guys to at least stalemate some of the time at the line of scrimmage. I really don't want to see Davis lined up on a linebacker, but equal to that, if we don't have a nice lead, I don't want to see Raji paired with an understrengthed rookie defensive lineman as the front line of our run defense. Good god, that's a recipe for disaster.

There are a lot of good things that could happen in this game that will really smooth over some of our weaknesses (namely getting ahead with big offense, turnovers and/or ST's play.) The same way we destroyed Atlanta's balanced offense in 2010, but if we don't get that nice lead, we're going to be looking at a really long day of 2 friggin DL being asked to neutralize 5 320 lb bad-ass lineman blocking for a healthy Frank friggin Gore. I don't like that matchup. It's not a very good matchup.

[RashanGary]

If Capers is so in love with that 2-4 defense that nothing, even being the worst defense in the NFL will take him out of it, then please, Dom, at least pair Raji and Pickett in there. Just give us a chance.

[RashanGary]

I hope, on Vince's grave, that McCarthy doesn't intend on getting into a ground and pound-bigger dick pissing match with this San Francisco 49ers team using our tiny, last rated 2-4 defense vs their utterly dominating version of the 3-4 and Cedric Benson vs their healthy Frank Gore. I hope on hope we make this an AR vs Alex Smith matchup. Literally, fuck Cedric Benson. Fuck Alex Green. Put the ball in AR's hand. Give him the best body guard possible and go to town on their dime defense with Nelson, Jennings, Finley and Cobb/Driver/Jones.

Oh, man, just listening to the people here, if the Packers have any intention of getting into that type of a pissing match with this team, we are doomed, literally.

Where is Wist when you need him. If ever there was a time to worry about going tiny on defense vs a dominant running team and then trying to run the ball with a finesse offense against one of the greatest defenses in the league, this is the time.

[ThunderDan]

SF's O isn't that good. They worked on short field after short field with their D creating as many turnovers as ours did last year. I trust ARod and our O can do more damage against their D than their O can do against our D.

You will see a lot of 2 TE sets and no huddle (Upnorth, I was the one who loves this formation) let SF get in base and then split Finley wide. In no huddle SF won't be able to get out of the base an ARod will pick them apart. I would guess Finley's numbers will be 9-117-2TDs on Sunday.

[George Cumby]

The Niners aren't as good as they looked last year, the ball bounced their way a lot and they were really lucky with injuries. I am not overly concerned. M3 isn't going to get into a "My dick is bigger than yours match" by trying to run the ball on the Niners. It will be the Pack's Air Game vs. the Niners Ground and Pound.

The Niners could win this one, but I doubt it.

31-17, Packers.

[King Friday]

The no-huddle is the key to beating the 49ers. Use it early and often...and don't let their defense have a chance to catch their breath. Well, that and not turning the ball over.

[RashanGary]

The Niners aren't as good as they looked last year, the ball bounced their way a lot and they were really lucky with injuries. I am not overly concerned. M3 isn't going to get into a "My dick is bigger than yours match" by trying to run the ball on the Niners. It will be the Pack's Air Game vs. the Niners Ground and Pound.

The Niners could win this one, but I doubt it.

31-17, Packers.

Now here's a positive post I can buy into! This is a tough game, no doubt, but we're going to have to open up on them. No secrets about it. There's no, hey, SF, you better stop our run to this thing. It's open up the fucking gates, here we come. While we might make some teams honest, and while we might be ready to run more later in the season, we're not doing it against this team and we're not doing it at this time of the season. Our passing game is oiled up and ready to race. Our running game, the way thigns have worked out, will be the last thing to come around. Put it on the shelf for this one. Just win the game. Do what we do best. Let's rip them up, let's take it to those young nickle/dime backs and make them wish they didn't show up. Let's attack their weakness and neutralize their strength. This is a wide open game, no question about it. This is all in AR's hands.

[MadtownPacker]

I believe Rodgers will have to come off the field on a stretcher before he lets the 49ers beat him at home. He says all the right things to the media but inside he has to be saying "fuck them for passing on me". Just part of what makes his fire burn IMO.