Starks out for the year?!?

[Smidgeon]

Way to kick a guy when he's down.

[Patler]

I always get a kick outta this, if you take away his big run, then he wasn't very good. Well damn if you take away AP's 3 big runs he wasn't very good either! Thing is he did have the big run and that factors in!

Who took away a big run?

[Patler]

I see your point, and this happens, but Patler isn't really doing that here; in fact to compare Green and Starks more fairly, he took away the clock killing runs, which are typically shorter because, well, you're just killing the clock. Still, I like the comparisons where all their runs are listed. Hell, Barry Sanders sometimes looked like -1, -3, 2, 64, -1, 3, 18, etc. etc.

No matter, Green and Grant will be adequate, the fault for the poor running game will be squarely on the O-line; specifically, I will place all the blame on EDS.

Exactly. As I said, EVEN WITH his long run, on 15 carries Starks had a lower per-carry average than Green.
While I didn't state it, you correctly hit the reason I also gave his stats without the 3 carries at the end. People often complain about those, because the defense is stacked to stop the run, and as I said, he got just 9 yards on the three carries. In effect, I was trying to compare apples to apples, and in this case each had 12 carries under "normal" situations. Even with a 22 yard run, Starks was a yard short of Green on their 12 carries each.

[mraynrand]

Way to kick a guy when he's down.

You seem fit to be tied

[mission]

Even more shitty thing here is that usually when a team has this many injuries, they have a poor record and end up with a top draft pick... really tipping the talent scales. Like we were picking #9 and took Raji. Now I never want this team to lose, but they have so much talent, that even with all these injuries, they're still in the driver's seat to win the division.

Part of me already has written this year's team off at least from a Super Bowl perspective. I enjoy the team and I'm not really down on them, but it's tough with so much talent on the sideline. Doesn't seem like anything is going in our favor... don't even get me started on officiating.

[Pugger]

The difference between Starks and Green is not much because neither is that good.

Starks is a tad better than Green but that isn't saying much...

[Zool]

Starks is a tad better than Green but that isn't saying much...

He is better at absorbing initial contact. I'd take Green on screens and wheel routes over Starks. It's really a wash IMO.

[HarveyWallbangers]

YPC is a stat you can use to analyze RBs, but I usually rely on what my eyes tell me. (I think there was a year when Ryan Grant's YPC were close or better than Adrian Peterson's YPC.) Benson's YPC was nothing to write home about, but he was the most impressive RB on the roster this year IMHO. He also faced some tough run defenses early in the year. Grant was a solid runner, but I think a healthy Starks (which is the problem) was better last year. I think Starks is a tad better than Green at this point, but I was impressed by the way Green ran last week. Perhaps "the light has gone on" for him, but RBs usually have it or they don't.

[LEWCWA]

I agree with the eye test....I watched AP put up 200 yards last weekend, but I never got the feeling he was dominating the game. He had 3 impressive runs, because Pack D couldn't tackle, but never really took over the game. I guess had Ponder done anything that may have changed,lol.

[mraynrand]

I agree with the eye test....I watched AP put up 200 yards last weekend, but I never got the feeling he was dominating the game. He had 3 impressive runs, because Pack D couldn't tackle, but never really took over the game. I guess had Ponder done anything that may have changed,lol.

I respectfully disagree in the strongest terms. Peterman took over as much as a RB can take over on an offense with no other weapons whatsoever. Guys missed tackles? Perhaps, but perhaps it was because AP steamrolled them. If he wasn't impressive at times, it was because the Packers had nine guys on the LOS and a single safety. My eye test said the AP was absolutely beasting it out there and that the Vikings might have pulled out a highly improbable win had their QB just kept feeding him the ball instead of feeding it to Burnett.

[Pugger]

Yes, we are lucky MN's "brain trust" decided to put the ball and the game into the hands of Ponder instead of their best player (and they wonder why they can't win?). Of course not having 2 of our better tacklers in CM3 and Woodson out of that game contributed to AP's monster game.

[woodbuck27]

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(DuJuan) Harris may get chance to shine

By SARAH BARSHOP ... packers@espnwisconsin.com

GO PACKERS !

[denverYooper]

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(DuJuan) Harris may get chance to shine

By SARAH BARSHOP ... packers@espnwisconsin.com

GO PACKERS !

Nice of M3 to rip on Harris's height: “He’s a young man who has a lot of abilities,” McCarthy said. “He’s 5-foot-7, but other than that we like everything about him."

[mraynrand]

Nice of M3 to rip on Harris's height: “He’s a young man who has a lot of abilities,” McCarthy said. “He’s 5-foot-7, but other than that we like everything about him."

Hate those little guys!