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  • #46
    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    McCarthy, and the offense are fine... the problem is Dom Capers.

    If McCarthy giving up play calling duties would allow him to keep Capers in line more, then I would say okay; but nothing is going to change next year - minus whatever coaches advance up the coaching ladder and move to other teams.

    As for A-Rod... losing to Ponder and Vikings is very plausible - look what happened yesterday. A-Rod won't have any say in the matter if the game is tied or a one score game and the Vikings have the ball last. If that's the case, I don't like our chances.
    If an unproven qb comes in here and wins a playoff game, heads got to roll. I'll compare yesterday to the Colts game earlier this year. They came back the next week and put the wood to the Texans. I think we'll see the same thing Saturday. Go PACK.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by son of a vic View Post
      If an unproven qb comes in here and wins a playoff game, heads got to roll. I'll compare yesterday to the Colts game earlier this year. They came back the next week and put the wood to the Texans. I think we'll see the same thing Saturday. Go PACK.
      So a loss might even be a good thing!
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      • #48
        Originally posted by son of a vic View Post
        If an unproven qb comes in here and wins a playoff game, heads got to roll. I'll compare yesterday to the Colts game earlier this year. They came back the next week and put the wood to the Texans. I think we'll see the same thing Saturday. Go PACK.
        That brings up an interesting angle: Rodgers is the only NFC QB with a playoff win on his resume.
        Wilson: 0
        Kaepernick: 0
        Ryan: 0
        RGIII: 0
        Ponder: 0
        Rodgers: 4
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        • #49
          Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
          So a loss might even be a good thing!
          Losing home playoff games is never good, but if they do, I think you'll see Dom Capers and his fake hair hittin the road.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
            Seriously, after 30 posts you write this. Let me be very specific so you understand.

            Even if we lose on Saturday I will still support MM in his current roll as HC and play caller for the Packkers.

            The Packers offensive coordinator is Tom Clements.
            Did you guys ever read Clements' bio on the Packer web site? He has quite the impressive resume.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
              That brings up an interesting angle: Rodgers is the only NFC QB with a playoff win on his resume.
              Wilson: 0
              Kaepernick: 0
              Ryan: 0
              RGIII: 0
              Ponder: 0
              Rodgers: 4
              There was an article on the BSPN website by Clayton and he mentioned this and gave the Packers the edge in the NFC because of Rodgers' (and a lot of other guys on the roster) playoff experience.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by son of a vic View Post
                I can't really fathom Ponder beating the Pack in the playoffs in green bay. A-rod would drown in a puddle of his own sick if that happens.
                If we don't do well in this playoff's don't be surprized to read rumbles that ARod may be looking to play elsewhere. It certainly looks to me that there is more then a slight undercurent of 'not all good things' happening in Green Bay.

                Did we exactly see the 'Buddy System' in effect when ARod lividly attacked MM after he tossed that Red Flag? Was that just a spur of the moment thing; or did that came about due to pent up frustration?

                I hated it when TT didn't sign Scott Wells and felt that this move would bite our team in the arse eventually. Stuff like that doesn't sit well in the dressing room. You don't disrupt chemistry over a $million$ or so and not retain a Pro Bowl center. It doesn't sit well when you sacked and hurried as often as Aaron has been ths season and the new center has been a bust.

                Maybe some Packer fans are somehow embedded in ignoring such things. I'm not one of them.

                Aaron Rodgers will not accept a Packer loss to the Vikings. I hope I don't see 'that TRUTH'.

                GO Aaron Rodgers ! GO PACKERS GO !!
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by son of a vic View Post
                  my point being Coach told him to call a timeout, because he was confused about down and distance, as James Jones lost his forward progress spot. Which is my basic premise-------- one brain does not equal two jobs.
                  Whoa, how did you know that MM told Rodgers to call a time out? That's pretty amazing, I mean, sure, the coach could call a time out on the sidelines if he wanted to, but why would he do that when he could just tell Rodgers to... oh, wait... except that normally the radio is cut off after some mythical 10-15 second window.

                  So, once again, I say Rodgers called the time out, so it wasn't poor clock management by MM.
                  - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
                    So a loss might even be a good thing!
                    Yes ! Often a loss is a wake up call; 'the siren' that sets loads of good stuff in motion.

                    Which team needs this playoff win more? That one is up for grabs.

                    Which team has the best QB; see passing yards /game offense and QB Rating?

                    Which team has the best offence in terms of rushing and passing yards/game and points scored? We have the overall edge.

                    Which team has the best defense in terms of rushing and passing yards/game and points against. It's close.

                    I believe it will come down to smart playcalling and which teams QB performs best.

                    The fact we are home helps alot. That Packer crowd has to be really loud when Minny is on offense. I can see Aaron Rodgers rallying that now.

                    We both play pro Pickem' so who do we have the most confidence in?

                    You've got it!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                      Whoa, how did you know that MM told Rodgers to call a time out? That's pretty amazing, I mean, sure, the coach could call a time out on the sidelines if he wanted to, but why would he do that when he could just tell Rodgers to... oh, wait... except that normally the radio is cut off after some mythical 10-15 second window.

                      So, once again, I say Rodgers called the time out, so it wasn't poor clock management by MM.
                      I guess blowing a timeout on a fourht and eleven and the punting, which resulted in the inabilty to challenge an obvious drop on thee ensuing drive that resulted in a TD, is acceptable and shouldn't be questioned. McCarthy called the timeout because he didn't get a play called in time, period.

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                      • #56
                        McCarthy had it right this weekend: it comes down to what Lombardi said it comes down to: who blocks and tackles best.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          McCarthy had it right this weekend: it comes down to what Lombardi said it comes down to: who blocks and tackles best.
                          That was before the era of the red flag do-overs, which can turn a game.

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                          • #58
                            A bad call can turn a game. All I'm saying is that if Green Bay comes out playing hard and clean and fast, and they play that way for 60 minutes, they will win.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              A bad call can turn a game. All I'm saying is that if Green Bay comes out playing hard and clean and fast, and they play that way for 60 minutes, they will win.
                              It's just so important in today's game to have challenge available when you need to use it. Can't be blowing timeouts. Field position and possessions are just too important, especially in the playoffs.
                              Last edited by son of a vic; 01-04-2013, 04:12 PM.

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                              • #60
                                Speaking of bad calls, Scott Green is the ref for this game (Arz, 2009).

                                However, the Pack are 2-0 in his subsequent games.
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