Brett Favre's current standing in the record books.

[pbmax]

Manning will OWN ALL RECORDS when he is done and if he wins a championship, he will be in the top 10 at least. He has a shot a Brett's continuous games started streak although he has quite a ways to go to catch him. Elway did much more with much less and I'm a fan who can't stand Elway. Look at how many Super Bowls he made it to with a bunch of junk.

You sure do change your tune when confronted with facts.

Anyways, Elway had the 3 amigo's playing in the 3 SB's with him. How in the world is that "much less" than what Brett has played with for the last 7-8 years?

The three amigos sucked. Vance Johnson was the only decent player.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brady is like Aikman (winners; accurate; clutch; more QB friendly dink and dunk offenses)

I don't think you can classify the Sid Gilliam/Don Coryell/Joe Gibbs/Norv Turner/Ernie Zampese offense as dink and dunk.

It was a timing based offense and contained ALOT of deep routes. Buckley and Evans weren't being burned by 5 yard comebacks.

This comparison is ludicrous.

Is that why Aikman averaged under 7 yards/attempt--despite his great completion %? I stand by my opinion. The Cowboys were hardly a down the field passing offense. They had Alvin Harper for awhile, and he could stretch the field--but their offense was based on Michael Irvin (one of the greatest possession receivers of all-time), TE Jay Novacek, and dumpoffs to Moose and Emmitt. Did you watch the Cowboys while Aikman was there? Perhaps you are blinded by the fact that Irvin and Harper could toast Buckley on any route (and often went deep on him). BTW, Evans not so much.

[pbmax]

Lets look at those glorious Pro Bowlers the Three Amigos!

1986
Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Mark Jackson | 16 | 2 6 3.0 0 | 38 738 19.4 1 |
| Vance Johnson | 12 | 5 15 3.0 0 | 31 363 11.7 2 |
| Clint Sampson | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 21 259 12.3 0 |
| Steve Watson | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 45 699 15.5 3

1987
Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Sam Graddy | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
| Mark Jackson | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 26 436 16.8 2 |
| Vance Johnson | 11 | 1 -8 -8.0 0 | 42 684 16.3 7 |
| Ricky Nattiel | 12 | 2 13 6.5 0 | 31 630 20.3 2 |
| Steve Watson | 5 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 11 167 15.2 1

1989
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Mark Jackson | 16 | 5 13 2.6 0 | 28 446 15.9 2 |
| Vance Johnson | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 76 1095 14.4 7 |
| Ricky Nattiel | 8 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 10 183 18.3 1 |
| Mike Young | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 22 402 18.3 2 |


Anbody want to claim that Mark Jackson, Ricky Nattiel and Vance Johnson were as good as Robert Brooks or Antonio Freeman?

[pbmax]

Is that why Aikman averaged under 7 yards/attempt--despite his great completion %? I stand by my opinion. The Cowboys were hardly a down the field passing offense. They had Alvin Harper for awhile, and he could stretch the field--but their offense was based on Michael Irvin (one of the greatest possession receivers of all-time), TE Jay Novacek, and dumpoffs to Moose and Emmitt. Did you watch the Cowboys while Aikman was there? Perhaps you are blinded by the fact that Irvin and Harper could toast Buckley on any route (and often went deep on him). BTW, Evans not so much.

During the Super Bowl years:

Aikman
Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD
1991 dal | 12 | 237 363 65.3 2754 7.6 11 10 | 16 5 1 |
| 1992 dal | 16 | 302 473 63.8 3445 7.3 23 14 | 37 105 1 |
| 1993 dal | 14 | 271 392 69.1 3100 7.9 15 6 | 32 125 0 |
| 1994 dal | 14 | 233 361 64.5 2676 7.4 13 12 | 30 62 1 |
| 1995 dal | 16 | 280 432 64.8 3304 7.6 16 7 | 21 32 1
Average for these 5 years: 7.56
Career Avg.: 7.0

Favre
1995 gnb | 16 | 359 570 63.0 4413 7.7 38 13 | 39 181 3 |
| 1996 gnb | 16 | 325 543 59.9 3899 7.2 39 13 | 49 136 2 |
| 1997 gnb | 16 | 304 513 59.3 3867 7.5 35 16 | 58 187 1 |
| 1998 gnb | 16 | 347 551 63.0 4212 7.6 31 23 | 40 133 1 |
Average for four years:7.5
Career Avg.: 7.0

Elway
1985 den | 16 | 327 605 54.0 3891 6.4 22 23 | 51 253 0 |
| 1986 den | 16 | 280 504 55.6 3485 6.9 19 13 | 52 257 1 |
| 1987 den | 12 | 224 410 54.6 3198 7.8 19 12 | 66 304 4 |
| 1988 den | 15 | 274 496 55.2 3309 6.7 17 19 | 54 234 1 |
| 1989 den | 15 | 223 416 53.6 3051 7.3 18 18 | 48 244 3
Avg. for five years: 7.02
Career Avg.: 7.1

Brady
2001 nwe | 15 | 264 413 63.9 2843 6.9 18 12 | 36 43 0 |
| 2002 nwe | 16 | 373 601 62.1 3764 6.3 28 14 | 42 110 1 |
| 2003 nwe | 16 | 317 527 60.2 3620 6.9 23 12 | 42 63 1 |
| 2004 nwe | 16 | 288 474 60.8 3692 7.8 28 14 | 43 28 0 |
| 2005 nwe | 16 | 334 530 63.0 4110 7.8 26 14 | 27 89 1
Avg. for five years: 7.14
Career Avg.: 7.1

Accoring to Harvey, Elway was a career dinker and dunker before Mike Shanahan.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Elway's low numbers can be attributed to his below average completion %--which was a result of an offense that went down field more. Actually, you could argue that Favre, Brady, Aikman, Young, Montana, etc. all played in a dink and dunk offense.

[Patler]

Statistically, Marino is the only one that compares to Favre. There are several that belong in the talk of best ever based on team success (Starr, Bradshaw, Aikman, Graham, now Brady, etc.). There are only a handful that have both the stats and a championship. In my mind, those are the ones at the top. Those are Montana, Elway, Unitas, Favre.

Manning is like Marino (great passers; no title)
Favre is like Elway (great arms; good mobility; tough; leaders)
Brady is like Aikman (winners; accurate; clutch; more QB friendly dink and dunk offenses)

With another title, Brady can move into that Starr, Bradshaw, maybe even Montana class. With one title, Manning can move from Marino to the Elway/Favre class.

One thing separates Manning from Elway, Favre, Marino, etc. Their team mates regularly talked about Elway and Marino being great leaders, and of course past and present Packers do about Favre. Team mates look to them, follow them and feel they always have a chance. Thier teammates play better for them and because of them.

I have never once read an article or heard a player rave about Manning's leadership. I've often wondered if his teammates even like him or respect him, especially after his comments about his line last year.