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  • #31
    Pretty unlikely Teo will be around when the Packers pick. Probably a top-15 pick.
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    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Pretty unlikely Teo will be around when the Packers pick. Probably a top-15 pick.
      Not after the Bama fiasco.

      TT moves up continually -- worth moving up if Teo starts to slip.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Pretty unlikely Teo will be around when the Packers pick. Probably a top-15 pick.
        maybe, maybe not

        he played like shit in the national championship game, against a lot of pro level talent playing a pro style offense.

        his draft stock might have taken a massive hit

        however i still don't think he falls all the way to us

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        • #34
          The Alabama game won't hurt Teo. Notre Dame's DL was dominated by Alabama's OL. Makes it a lot harder for the LB's to make plays.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            Originally posted by red View Post
            maybe, maybe not

            he played like shit in the national championship game, against a lot of pro level talent playing a pro style offense.

            his draft stock might have taken a massive hit

            however i still don't think he falls all the way to us
            Its called moving up the way TT got Matthews, Nelson, Worthy, etc.

            Teo is what the Packers need.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
              Its called moving up the way TT got Matthews, Nelson, Worthy, etc.

              Teo is what the Packers need.
              He moved up to get Matthews and Worthy, but got Nelson by moving down. TT has never traded his 1st round pick plus another pick to move up in the 1st round. He seems content to see who slides to him in the 1st. If the right player slid he might trade up, but I suspect he'll want to get a lot of picks this year after trading away picks to move up last year.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                The Alabama game won't hurt Teo. Notre Dame's DL was dominated by Alabama's OL. Makes it a lot harder for the LB's to make plays.
                How many missed tackles did Teo have? In the first half alone, Teo had more missed tackles than he did the entire season.

                A dominated d line forces lbs to make more tackles.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  He moved up to get Matthews and Worthy, but got Nelson by moving down. TT has never traded his 1st round pick plus another pick to move up in the 1st round. He seems content to see who slides to him in the 1st. If the right player slid he might trade up, but I suspect he'll want to get a lot of picks this year after trading away picks to move up last year.
                  What I am saying is if a Matthews type situation presents itself TT should make every effort to acquire Teo.

                  We are not even having this discussion if Teo had a monster game as Teo would have been a top 5 pick. Now Teo is possibly in play.

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                  • #39
                    I think you're overestimating how much one sub-par game against a superior opponent will hurt Teo. If he performs well at the Combine, I expect his overall body of work will make him a high pick. But we'll see.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      I think you're overestimating how much one sub-par game against a superior opponent will hurt Teo. If he performs well at the Combine, I expect his overall body of work will make him a high pick. But we'll see.
                      Check-out what so called draft experts are saying about Teo after a poor game.

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                      • #41
                        Teo reminds me a lot of Hawk to be honest. He's a great college player who faced weak competition in the ACC. I think I'd rather stick to SEC front 7 players when possible. They just seem to have a lot more recent success in the NFL in my opinion.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                          How many missed tackles did Teo have? In the first half alone, Teo had more missed tackles than he did the entire season.

                          A dominated d line forces lbs to make more tackles.
                          So after missing so many tackles that is what the Packers need????

                          I don't get it.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                            IWe're still woefully underpowered in our front seven. TT made some progress with drafting Worthy, Perry, and Daniels, but of course Capers misused them. TT needs to bring in a couple more strong, run stuffing, 2 gap defensive linemen, and completely rebuild the linebacking corp.
                            I agree with the diagnosis but not the cure. There is nothing in Capers scheme that is soft or finesse, but Thompson drafted pass rushing 4-3 lineman plus a true tweener OLB/DE to plug the gaps from 2011. Capers has run a 4-3 and 3-4 hybrid, but only at the behest of Tom Coughlin and mostly due to personnel.

                            Capers, McCarthy and Thompson made a potentially big miscalculation in the last draft. The depth on this team in the front seven is not suited to the primary defensive alignment. It addressed pass rushing interior lineman but nothing in base.

                            Its a mismatch and since it involves depth, probably could be overcome if the LBs were better. But they aren't.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #44
                              And by the way, anyone who argues against the bye week next year should simply be reminded of this game. The 49ers put both weeks to good use.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                                So after missing so many tackles that is what the Packers need????

                                I don't get it.
                                He'll fit right in.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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