Your 2013 Green Bay Packers

[wist43]

In your opinion, are they significantly less physical now than they were 2 years ago when they (Gasp!) won the Super Bowl?

Howard Green gave em just enough up front to get by; and as someone else stated in another thread, and I've tried to point out to you homers - the stars aligned, Rodgers got smoking hot, we got good matchups against other finesse and flawed teams, and it was enough to get us a championship.

The last 2 years have exposed the defense for what it is though... if you're happy with how the defense played the last two years, then congratulations - you've got the team you want.

[MadtownPacker]

I picture Nutz sitting at a desk with a bottle of whiskey and a pistol on his desk, typing this shit up.

[George Cumby]

I picture Nutz sitting at a desk with a bottle of whiskey and a pistol on his desk, typing this shit up.

You left out one critical element: he is clad only in his tighty-whities.

[hoosier]

For someone who isn't a fan you sure do pay a lot of attention to the Packers. Please give me your outlook on the 2013 Jacksonville Jaguars next.

That was actually an insightful writeup and you have to go and alienate the guy. Ingrate.

Minor correction: Worthy's injury is now being described as just a severe bruise and nothing that a month off won't cure. If we heard that during the season we would be right to be skeptical, but it's coming from the horse's mouth and there is no reason to conceal anything at this point.

Disagreement: Monte Ball is the product of a college offensive line that just might be better than the one in GB, at least at run blocking. And while I cannot see McThompson drafting any sort of RB in the first round, it is a fact that every year TT has broken one of his drafting tendencies, so who knows. My bet is that he takes the C from Alabama if he is still there.

[Joemailman]

I picture Nutz sitting at a desk with a bottle of whiskey and a pistol on his desk, typing this shit up.

I picture you under the desk.

[Bretsky]

I want TT to draft somebody who is nasty tough, and if that is on the OL I'm fine with that.

I think many of us overestimated this roster this year; we have more holes than can be filled via the draft.


Another year to trade down a few times to get several 2nd/3rd round guys unless a star falls.

I think Wist makes a lot of good points

[ThunderDan]

Let's look at next year before the draft:

OL: Newhouse, Lang, EDS, Sitton, Barclay, Sherrod, Bulaga, Van Rotten
WR: Cobb, Jones, Nelson. Ross, Boykins
TE: Crabtree, Finley, Williams, Taylor, Quarless
QB: Rodgers, Harrell
RB: Starks, Green, Harris, Kuhn (Benson)
DL: Pickett, Raji, Wilson, Neal, Worthy, Daniels
LB: Mathews, Perry, Walden, Zombo, Moses, Hawk, Jones, Bishop, Manning, DJ Smith
CB: Shields, Williams, House, Hayward, Bush
S: Burnett, Woodson, Jennings, McMillan
K/P/ST: Crosby, Goode, Mastay

[ThunderDan]

Looking at the above list it would nice to:
Get 1 more lineman, hopefully a long-term solution at C if EDS can't cut it
WR: Probably draft later and hope for a ST ace
TE: May need to be address if they let Finley go which I don't think they will
QB: Draft another late round development project
RB: Be nice to draft a early round guy who can compete for snaps in his 1st year
DL: Need one more big body and would be great to find a true 3-4 DE
LB: Cut the dead weight, draft an ILB stud early, draft an OLB rush project late
CB: I like our depth here
S: Draft early and often, Woodson may be gone and can improve on Jennings
K/P/ST: Get Crosby to a kicking specialist this offseason, the rest is fine

[wist43]

Don't get me wrong, I do like some of the young guys... I like Perry, Worthy, and Daniels; and Neal has finally showed up. Of course I've always like Raji... but, and it's a big BUT, none of those guys is really suited to play a more traditional 3-4.

Raji is wasted on the nose, IMO; Neal and Worthy should be okay in a DE rotation, but I'd prefer both of them as rushers on passing downs; Daniels is undersized for a 3-4, and should only be used in subpackages. Pickett is in decline.

Given that is what Capers had/has to work with, he needed/needs to use more 4 down linemen on passing downs, Rotate Raji and Pickett on the nose and Worthy and Neal at DE. Going to 2 DL and a nickle as often as he could only served to make an undersized, underpowered defensive front even more underpowered. You can get away with that against Jacksonville and Tennessee, but good offenses - power offenses are going to push you right off the field.

The Packers defense is built to play from ahead... we can't stand toe-to-toe with tough teams. We simply don't have the horsepower, only 1 true-2 gapper (Pickett), and aren't tough enough/athletic enough at Linebacker to compensate for the lack of horsepower on the line.

It's up to Capers to find a way to make the best of what he has. If we played Jacksonville every week, we'd be fine... if we played the 49'ers every week, I doubt we'd win a single game.

[LegandofthePack15]

DuJuan Harris will be the Packers' feature back in 2013. He will be the Packers' version of Maurice Jones-Drew. Bring back Benson to back up Harris. Turn Green into a bona fide 3rd down back. Quit playing Kuhn on third downs; the guy doesn't add anything to the passing game. Plus, what's the point of play Kuhn on 3rd downs when teams rarely blitz the Packers anymore?

Say no to Monte Ball. The guy is slower than Jerry Ball.

I say, in the first round, draft hot shot inside linebacker. Either trade up to draft that Notre Dame guy or stay put and draft another Nick Barnett (Nico Johnson?). In round 2 (assuming that Thompson doesn't trade up), draft a fast, hot shot, saftey. Even if the saftey is not hot shot, draft him anyway if he's extremely fast. Need a fast saftey to counter them new breed of running qbs.

Acquire Tim Tebow. Tebow would serve as a serviceable backup and help prepare the defense against them new breed of running qbs.

[George Cumby]

DuJuan Harris will be the Packers' feature back in 2013. He will be the Packers' version of Maurice Jones-Drew. Bring back Benson to back up Harris. Turn Green into a bona fide 3rd down back. Quit playing Kuhn on third downs; the guy doesn't add anything to the passing game. Plus, what's the point of play Kuhn on 3rd downs when teams rarely blitz the Packers anymore?

Say no to Monte Ball. The guy is slower than Jerry Ball.

I say, in the first round, draft hot shot inside linebacker. Either trade up to draft that Notre Dame guy or stay put and draft another Nick Barnett (Nico Johnson?). In round 2 (assuming that Thompson doesn't trade up), draft a fast, hot shot, saftey. Even if the saftey is not hot shot, draft him anyway if he's extremely fast. Need a fast saftey to counter them new breed of running qbs.

Acquire Tim Tebow. Tebow would serve as a serviceable backup and help prepare the defense against them new breed of running qbs.

Oh stop it.

I, who know nothing, would like to see D-line or LB taken early in the draft. Regardless of what position, I would like some nasty MFers to be drafted, some wild as shit sociopath to put the fear of God into the opposing team.

[LegandofthePack15]

Oh stop it.

I, who know nothing, would like to see D-line or LB taken early in the draft. Regardless of what position, I would like some nasty MFers to be drafted, some wild as shit sociopath to put the fear of God into the opposing team.

I thought you hated Suh? No? That guy is a sociopath on the field.

Thompson has drafted enough fat guys with high draft picks already (Harrell, Bulaga, Sherrod, Worthy, etc.). No more fat guys!

I am serious regarding Tebow. The guy would be awesome in a WCO. Plus, if McCarthy can turn Rodgers from throwing like a college qb into throwing a like a NFL qb, no reason he can't do the same with Tebow.

[digitaldean]

I want TT to draft somebody who is nasty tough, and if that is on the OL I'm fine with that.

I think many of us overestimated this roster this year; we have more holes than can be filled via the draft.


Another year to trade down a few times to get several 2nd/3rd round guys unless a star falls.

I think Wist makes a lot of good points

We need another Wayne Simmons....that guy was scary at times.

[Bretsky]

I thought you hated Suh? No? That guy is a sociopath on the field.

Thompson has drafted enough fat guys with high draft picks already (Harrell, Bulaga, Sherrod, Worthy, etc.). No more fat guys!

I am serious regarding Tebow. The guy would be awesome in a WCO. Plus, if McCarthy can turn Rodgers from throwing like a college qb into throwing a like a NFL qb, no reason he can't do the same with Tebow.

Well, except maybe Tim Tebow has a weak arm so he's unable to make many of the throws of an NFL QB

[SkinBasket]

Is there a cheaper version of Tim Tebow out there? Maybe Tim Couch is still serviceable? He's had a long rest.