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Originally posted by Patler View PostI think it shows bad judgment that he didn't pretend to go to the fake funeral service for his imaginary girlfriend. That should have been the least he would be willing to not do.Originally posted by denverYooper View PostWe're only a few steps away from a bold new re-interpretation of L'Étranger!
True, true. And Manti Teo is forced back into the 2nd round, a metaphor, as it were, for the guillotine, while the fans reject media absurdisms and instead display philosophical indifference by asking about his 40 time.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Yo. Chopping the kid's head off for this might be a little extreme.Originally posted by swede View PostTrue, true. And Manti Teo is forced back into the 2nd round, a metaphor, as it were, for the guillotine, while the fans reject media absurdisms and instead display philosophical indifference by asking about his 40 time.
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This is about where I stand. Here are some red flags I'd move a guy down for:Originally posted by KYPack View PostHeard some stuff from Peter King that makes some sense this AM.
King had talked to a head of Personnel with an NFL team. Most of the teams had Teo ranked as the 8 -10 player in the draft. With all the Juniors coming in this draft, he may fall to 20 - early second round. Each draft, the teams discover some crazy shit about the potential draftees. Finding out your guy did some incredibly stupid shit is old hat to most personnel staffs. Each team has guys that are basically stone crazy. if the kid makes it thru a few individual interviews OK, this cat thought he still will go in the first 40 picks easily.
Manti Teo is just another in a long line of young kids that have done goofy shit.
They are trying to ball in the NFL, not run for office.
-Lazy, inconsistent, no passion for ball
-heinous crimes
-Severe personality clashes with teammates and/or coaches
-A long history of being a liar/untrustworty
-Severe drug and alcohol problems and/or affiliation with a group of people who live that type of lifestyle
Here are some stupid things I would not move a guy down for, at all:
-known to smoke pot once or twice, but all other history suggests it was isolated incidences (especially if said player has a strong family background and good relationships with his teammates and coaches
-caught in some form of scheme where said player stole something from someones dorm or damaged property in a funny or obviously prank-like manor (again, especially if said player has strong family background and good personal relationships with teammates. Add this to every single one of the forgivable incidences)
-player had history as a freshman of being immature, partying too much, but grew up and became a strong leader by example. Guys who break rules can often be leader types who are testing out boundaries and learning what they can and can't do. You need guys who will go against the grain a little. Football requires a certain attitude and belief in yourself that goes beyond the typical "follow all rules because you are not above anything." I think the best players believe they cannot best stopped. (see Adrian Peterson and his 100MPH speeding incidence or Brett Favre and his Mississippi invincible attitude. Great ones test limits and often times believe nothing can stop them. As a matter of fact, if a player displaying this trait is also a known leader among his team, ultra competitive and has a decent support system and is talented beyond belief, this might be the first guy I want to draft. He might even be a guy I move up on my board because of the potential to be a dynamic superstar and a dynamic leader of men. You know what they say, follow our fearless leader. . . Well, that's because people love a guy who will lead the charge, a guy who will put his body on the line without hesitation, a guy you know has your back and will fight even when the odds are against him.
There are several other things I forgive. In fact, I forgive more than I damn guys. Lack of will to be the best, showings of ruthless violence, drug problems, extremely unstable backgrounds, etc. . . Those things scare me. Outside of that, I'm a believer in people and I don't think leaders are your conventional rule followers. I don't even think you want pussies on the field as anything more than role players. OL are guys who I'd like to be the conventional rule follower types. They need to follow technique to a T. Most other positions, I want guys who believe in their coaches, but have some creativity and outside the box traits to their personality. Nick Collins and Des Bishop are guys I think of like this. They play true to form and to their technique, but in the moment, when it's time to do something awkward or outside of the norm, they just find a way. At the end of the day, they believe in themselves and ultimately fall back on their instincts not a series of hoop jumping and rule following.
I like guys with little chips on their shoulder too, guys who get a little satisfaction in revenge, guys maybe a little insecure, who feel they always have something to prove, guys who aren't very patient, maybe shoot for perfection, maybe ultra competitive, don't play well with others during competition. Maybe they're a little violent in the moment, maybe they're the type who won't let a kid win, maybe they never admit failure and never stop trying, maybe they'll cheat a little, sneak a little to get an edge (see hoodie in NE, Jordy sneakily picking up the flag, Barroid, and many others.) Just guys who are so competitive and driven, they'd typically drive you nuts and the casual sporting enthusiast woudln't want to play a friendly game of basketball with this guy unless he was on your team in a tournament or something like that. You want a guy who doesn't know how to lose and has a fighter personality in the field of play. You want the guy who's so driven, he'd take a little HGH to be the best. Sadly, the best of the best are on performance enhancers. They're the best for a reason, because they eat sleep and breath competition, because they never feel comfortable and safe, because every moment, they train and prepare like their back is against the wall. The greatest of the great cheat a little. I guarantee you Peterson is on illegal performance enhancers. I guarantee you Clay is. These guys need the admiration, they need perfection, they can't stop themselves.Last edited by RashanGary; 01-23-2013, 07:37 PM.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Two names will always jump off at me and that is Warren Sapp, and Randy Moss. Passed on character concerns, for Sapp is weed which is ridiculous because he was dominant from day one. Moss had some drug issues and some violence in his past, but he don't get 6-4 with 4.3 speed very often. Both Hall of Fame players.
Vonta Burfict is another guy that gave every indication that he was was going to be a complete mess ended up being a quality starting linebacker for the Bengals.
This whole thing with Teo is completely ridiculous but he can either play football or he can't.
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Its also possibly more common than we imagine.
Jeff Darlington, I believe, today posted a story about the Redskins having to warn players away from a "fan" who they had investigated and discovered did not exist. There were apparently four players talking to "her".
Makes me wonder who is really posting in this forum.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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This is in the media up here as well. Latest development: the voice on the phone was a guy!
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/N.../20521781.html
His lawyer's (not Manti, the other guy) rebutal?"Come on, Hollywood does it all the time," Grimes said Wednesday. "People can do that."--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Wow. Can we finally put away all the "he's not gay" theories?Originally posted by Guiness View PostThis is in the media up here as well. Latest development: the voice on the phone was a guy!
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/N.../20521781.html
His lawyer's (not Manti, the other guy) rebutal?70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Dear Mr. PBMax,Originally posted by pbmax View PostIts also possibly more common than we imagine.
Jeff Darlington, I believe, today posted a story about the Redskins having to warn players away from a "fan" who they had investigated and discovered did not exist. There were apparently four players talking to "her".
Makes me wonder who is really posting in this forum.
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Okay, not really. But if I could get the Charmin by next Tuesday that would be great.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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In the latest news, the caller WAS a girl and Ronnie is getting some quality time on Dr. Phil.
It has inexorably moved past the point where I can care. Katie was pushing it, but Dr. Phil is a step too far. I am not posting here again until someone gets arrested or a movie development deal.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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You think they can bust the kid for wanting to fuck his fake girlfriend after she was dead?Originally posted by pbmax View PostIn the latest news, the caller WAS a girl and Ronnie is getting some quality time on Dr. Phil.
It has inexorably moved past the point where I can care. Katie was pushing it, but Dr. Phil is a step too far. I am not posting here again until someone gets arrested or a movie development deal.
Some kind of phantom necrophelia?
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