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  • I'm hearing a lot of positive things about Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State.





    He says he runs about a 4.5 flat (incredibly fast for a LB.) I'm reading his coverage skills are excellent and he's a big hitter. Smart, hard working. . . . . Looking at the nfldraftscout bio, even his weaknesses come off as strengths. Size issues even though he plays big. . . Excellent at shedding blocks but that could lead to injuries even though he's never had any. I don't love that he hasn't forced fumbles. That's a bit of a playmaker red flag for me. Maybe they teach tackling over going after the ball. Who knows. But he looks explosive on tape, and the writeup on him is very positive.

    If you plan on starting Nick Perry at OLB, it sure makes a lot of sense to have someone with speed, the ability to diagnose and sift through traffic, and coverage ability behind him. It looks like a good fit.


    Strengths: Instinctive, physical defender who, other than his lack of ideal size, ranks among the surest prospects of the 2013 draft. Possesses excellent key and diagnosis skills. Often takes his initial step toward where the play is designed to go before the quarterback has finished taking the snap. Possesses explosive, active hands to quickly slip blocks and plays with excellent leverage, bending at the knees to consistently get under the pads of would-be blockers and pushing them aside to make the play in the hole. Very good balance to avoid cut blocks and when knocked to the ground; remarkably quick in popping back up. Very good sideline to sideline speed, which could allow him to remain at inside linebacker in the NFL. Drops back into coverage fluidly, demonstrating not only the athleticism but the awareness to handle this responsibility in the NFL. Times his blitz well with the snap, showing the flexibility to slip past blockers, flatten out and close on the quarterback.

    Weaknesses: Obvious size concerns, though he plays much bigger than he looks. Tendency to take on blocks with alternating shoulders, putting him in excellent position to slip off and make tackles but also could be jeopardizing the long-term health of his body, especially considering his relative lack of size in the first place. Stands out on tape for his size, physicality and open-field tackling, but hasn't proven to be much of a playmaker over his career, posting "just" three interceptions and not a single forced fumble over his collegiate career. Struggles while at Miami open up concerns about how well he'll handle the jump to an NFL team further from home.

    COMPARES TO: Curtis Lofton, ILB, New Orleans Saints -- Like Lofton, Brown plays bigger than he looks and will quickly prove himself to be a vacuum tackler in the NFL. To emerge as one of the elite at their position, however, each has to show a greater ability to cause turnovers.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      Sweet. His value drops, TT digs deep, finds out Ogletree is a good guy who made one mistake, then trades down into the second round, gets an extra third, still gets Ogletree in round two AND still has his second rounder, plus two third rounders.

      And while all this is going on, Drew Barrymore is texting me, telling me she gets off on talking about the Packers while she's having sex.
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      • We are all very, very old.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • Unfortunately, this isn't the first time the highly athletic Ogletree has run afoul of the law. He was arrested and charged with the theft of a Georgia track athlete's motorcycle helmet Sept. 3, 2010, and was suspended for the first game of his collegiate career.

          Ogletree was again suspended this year, this time for four games, after he and former teammate Baccari Rambo reportedly failed drug tests.
          Thanks Ted!

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          • Here are some popular mock drafts which will change multiple times, I'm not really liking the Ogletree or Fluker (injured) picks: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts

            Both of those mocks have Fluker and Ogletree going ahead of T'eo.
            Thanks Ted!

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            • With now another screw-up so close to draft time, I don't see TT going after Ogletree in the first round. His high round picks are high character guys. He will take a chance on character in lower rounds, not in the first.

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              • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                Sweet. His value drops, TT digs deep, finds out Ogletree is a good guy who made one mistake, then trades down into the second round, gets an extra third, still gets Ogletree in round two AND still has his second rounder, plus two third rounders.

                And while all this is going on, Drew Barrymore is texting me, telling me she gets off on talking about the Packers while she's having sex.
                FALSE!

                She generally talks about my hair or eyes or how strong I am.

                When her, well, umm, mouth is full, she hums 'the star spangled banner'.



                I'm a pass on Ogletree. Too many issues and questions to invest a first. We didn't get much production this last season from our last 3 No. 1s. We need to hit on immediate help this year to buck that trend.

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                • Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
                  After injuring his hamstring last week, Alabama RB Eddie Lacy now hopes to perform all drills at Alabama's Pro Day on March 13. No combine.


                  3 hrs Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
                  Alabama RB Eddie Lacy will not work out at combine after suffering small tear in some tissue around his hamstring while training last week.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne
                    Robert Alford true project. Coach says he's better than any CB at LSU, other big schools. Expects great Combine. But "not gifted mentally."
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • DE's Ezekiel Ansah and Datone Jones are intriguing prospects:

                      Thanks Ted!

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                      • Originally posted by packrulz View Post
                        DE's Ezekiel Ansah and Datone Jones are intriguing prospects:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w0mKUGNuWk
                        I don't know if Anseh's game will work one more level up, but he sure is smart. You can almost see him reference a formation and a blocking pattern, get off his block and find the right gap. You'd like to Frankenstein that brain into a more imposing, faster, more powerful body.

                        But hey, if he were stronger and faster he wouldn't have had to work so hard to get smart.

                        Datone Jones? He needs better tape than that game. This guy looked better in warm ups:

                        Last edited by swede; 02-18-2013, 05:43 PM.
                        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne
                          Robert Alford true project. Coach says he's better than any CB at LSU, other big schools. Expects great Combine. But "not gifted mentally."
                          LOL....well hell....I don't know..do we even want a smart CB?
                          C.H.U.D.

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                          • Not sure that they come faster than Ansah. You'll see at the combine, he's got great straight-line speed. As for his technique and power, I might agree.

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                            • Mayock apparently held the mother of all pre-draft conference calls (making it slightly more important than a new Life Saver flavor) but it contained these tidbits:
                              Mike Mayock spoke for more than two and a half hours Monday because he's Mike Mayock and you're not. Gregg Rosenthal listened and gleaned the highlights, including a take on Tyrann Mathieu.


                              ...

                              3. BYU's Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah is going to go "earlier than later" in the first round according to Mayock, but he's "way more raw" than Jason Pierre-Paul was a few years ago when he was drafted by the New York Giants. Ansah is potentially versatile enough to play defensive end in a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense. He could possibly play OLB in a 3-4, as well.

                              4. Mayock ranked six defensive tackles with first-round grades. He had the same number of offensive tackles with first-round grades. Mayock also said this year's safety class is the best he's seen in a while, with special love going to Texas' Kenny Vaccaro.

                              5. Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o should be drafted around pick No. 20 based on his talent, according to Mayock. Ultimately, Mayock expects Te'o to go around that number.

                              That matches up with what Atlanta Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff told "The Rich Eisen Podcast" on Monday. Te'o very much remains on the Falcons' draft board.

                              ...

                              9. If Te'o or Georgia linebacker Alec Ogletree falls to 32, Mayock says the Ravens will "sprint to the podium" to take either guy. Ogletree has top-10 talent, according to Mayock. Ogletree recently was arrested on a DUI charge.

                              10. Florida defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd drew comparisons to Warren Sapp. Mayock sees Floyd as a top-five talent and a candidate to go No. 3 overall to the Oakland Raiders. "When he's fresh, it's really special."
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Only thing I know for sure is Honey Badger will not be a packer. I always like knowing a lot on the draft, but I feel like I don't know shit this year.
                                "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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