THE draft thread (2013 version)

[packrulz]

26. Johnthan Banks - CB, Miss. St.
6'1" 185
A small town kid. He started off at safety and then converted to CB. They say he's a ball hawk and a good route reader. He is a risk taker, likes to bait a QB and he's not afraid to go for the home run.



When talking about his negatives, it's all angles and overpursuit and technique. Basically things that can be taught. If we weren't stacked at CB, I'd jump at him.

Stacked? Man, I think CB is a big question mark. T-Will just doesn't seem as strong since he got hurt (nerve damage?), Heyward is a bit short, House is unproven, I think we have a "need" at CB. I could see taking Banks.

[Patler]

I don't think a team can ever have too many good, young cornerbacks. It's a highly paid position, and, if nothing else, if you can have quality corners in their rookie contracts it sure helps the salary cap.

[sharpe1027]

Stacked? Man, I think CB is a big question mark. T-Will just doesn't seem as strong since he got hurt (nerve damage?), Heyward is a bit short, House is unproven, I think we have a "need" at CB. I could see taking Banks.

Sure, but by that standard they have a "need" at every position.

At CB they have 4 guys that played pretty well last year. While I agree that T-will is not as dominate as before the injury, but he is still a solid CB. Shields' offers the speed that can't be taught and his early mental mistakes were corrected by the end of the year. Heyward just knows how to play. He is always in the right place to make big plays. House look OK in his limited action. Also, Woodson's days a CB may nearing an end, but he's not bad for a 5th option. Bush has improved enough that he can play in a pinch (but hopefully he is not needed).

That being said, I agree with Patler. If a good DB is the best player on the board, they should not hesitate to snatch him up.

[woodbuck27]

Well, I had some time off so I decided to look around to see who's slotted to go near the Packers. Because I'm not a huge researcher, I decided to stick with ESPN's scout inc big board. Assuming that they have a half way decent view on who's coming out, I pulled out +/- 5 picks from our #26. So here's who they have.

21. Ezekiel Ansah - DE, BYU
6'5" 274 LBS
The guy has been compared to Jason Pierre-Paul and Clay Mathews. He's a great pass rusher, but would be a conversion project from DE to OLB for the Packers. We've already began that process with Perry, so I'm not sure if that's something we want to tackle again this year. What I don't like about him is that he's only been playing football for 3 years. He's only had one starting year in the college ranks. I know there's other great players out there who have gone through that, but those guys came from a lifetime of playing football. He was a flash in the pan in college, having one good year when nobody knew who he was. I have a hard time jumping at a guy like this.

22. Johnathan Hankins - DT, Ohio State
6'3" 320 LBS
A Junior declaring early. He's a big guy who's played every position on the D line. He's described as fluid and mobile, which is very nice to have. The scouts say his pros are his quick feet, mobility down the line and his first step ability. They also point out his aggresive run defense. All very nice things. Due to his high snap counts in college, he often seemed to wear down during games. Those big bursts of strengths didn't show up in the second halves of games. Streaky. He's also known for relying to much on his upper body strength, which will get you worn out in a hurry in the NFL. With the solid rotation we're going to have on the line, I would have no problem with the pack moving to pick this guy up.

23. Geno Smith - QB, W. Virginia

I highly doubt we're going after a quarterback in the first round. Not gonna do the research.

24. Johnathan Jenkins - DT, Georgia
6'4" 359LBS
Damn that guys big! This guy has had a target on his chest and has still performed well. He is a run stopping machine. Can move laterally down the line well and can collapse the pocket, but due to his size, he's not likely to get to the QB. He's not slippery, he's more like a brick wall. He's also prone to slowing down during the game. I think of Gilbert Brown. If you keep the guy fresh, he's going to be a monster for you. With our rotation abilities, I think this is a no miss for the packers. If I had to pick a guy to target, this would be it.

25. Cordarrelle Patterson - WR, Tennessee
6'3" 205 LBS
With Jennings and Finely possibly leaving the fold, and with the other three big recievers only having 1-2 years left on their contracts, it's not unlikely that TT will grab a WR early in the draft. This guy is fast and big. He's a good route runner, loves the slants and likes the big play go route. He does catch with his body a lot. He also wasn't asked to make a lot of jump ball catches. He always try's to make the most of a catch though (for good and for bad) and he's been known to drop an easy catch because his eyes are already up field. He'd be a nice project for the Packers. He'd be allowed to develop with our team and he could turn into a great player for us.

26. Johnthan Banks - CB, Miss. St.
6'1" 185
A small town kid. He started off at safety and then converted to CB. They say he's a ball hawk and a good route reader. He is a risk taker, likes to bait a QB and he's not afraid to go for the home run.



When talking about his negatives, it's all angles and overpursuit and technique. Basically things that can be taught. If we weren't stacked at CB, I'd jump at him.

27. Sam Montgomery - DE, LSU
6'5" 260 LBS
This guy is a pure 4-3 DE. I don't see the packers taking him. I'll give a little info on him though. He's tall, lanky, and fast. He's a good chase down player, but doesn't have that initial burst speed that you like to see in a DE. He's one of them motor guys you hear about, he holds the line well against run plays. He's also known to get locked up, can't break free or shed blocks and doesn't have the flexibility to get slide past guys when his bull rush or his outside speed are failing him.

28. Keenan Allen - WR, California
6'3" 210LBS
A big play reciever who's not afraid of contact. Constantly had the bullseye on him and still made plays, much like Jordy did before he came out of college. He plays every WR position on the field, likes to catch with his hands and willingly blocks downfield, even when the ball is run away from him. He's not as fast as people would like, and he's not known for shaking tackles. He also had a knee injury in October. I think we already have a player like this and his name is Jordy Nelson, I wouldn't mind him, but knee injuries scare me.

29. Zach Ertz - TE, Stanford
6'6" 252 LBS
He's another Jermicheal Finley. Big, good hands, fast, route runner, can play any WR position, great in the red zone. Needs a lot of help on blocking. If we pick him up, you can wave goodbye to Jermicheal in a hot second.

30. Eddie Lacy - RB, Alabama
We have discussed him, so I'm going to skip him.

31. Tavon Auston - WR, W. Virginia
5'9" 175 LBS
This little guy is a Darren Sproles, Randall Cobb type reciever. If we didn't already have 2 of these types of players on our team (Cobb/Ross), I wouldn't mind giving him a look. He doesn't fit our roster though, so I doubt we're going to target him.

All information was gained from the interwub. CBS sports, ESPN, NFL.com, hell, even a patriots web site. I just summed up what they said, expanded when I was interested and shrunk when I wasn't.

The fella that jumps out to me in your post is Johnathan Jenkins - DT, Georgia and this >>> 6'4" 359LBS.

We have a certain need on the DL (ie at DT) to add depth but that need is immediate. We need more than a prospect. TT might get a jump here by bringing in a solid FA to cover this primary need. If he does this he can then option to pick at #26 on the OL (ie go center or versitility) or pick at WR.

It doesn't seem logical to me that Ted Thompson will pick a RB in round one. Don't be surprized if TT goes CB if the right player is available on his board.

GO PACKERS !

[Smeefers]

Wow. I had no idea so many people thought we were weak at CB. You learn something new every day. While I agree in principle that you can never have too many good young CB's, practice is a little harder to go on. We've gotten solid CB's in the last three drafts. Shields, house and Hayward. I do not think this is the time to pick up another one early in the draft. I don't have a problem with best player available, but if possible, I think you go for a position you're significantly weak at. That's why I agree with Woodbuck and think John Jenkins would be awesome to have. Of course, now that I like him, he won't be available. So, Smuggler's probably right. We'll drop out of the first round and get a couple more picks out of it on a roster that is deeper than yo mamma's butt crack.

[smuggler]

The fella that jumps out to me in your post is Johnathan Jenkins - DT, Georgia

I.... agreee... wiiithhh hWooooooodbuckk

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

I've heard it said that the Reid kid from Florida is the best available safety. With Woodson being released, maybe we should consider him. It would be nice if he fell and we found a way to trade up in the 2nd for him, instead of reaching in the first.

[pbmax]

Via Wilde's Twitter:

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
FYI, @BadgerFootball. RT @NFL_ATL Mayock's Top 5 RBs: 1. Eddie Lacy 2. Montee Ball 3. Andre Ellington 4. Giovani Bernard 5. Marcus Lattimore

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Via Wilde's Twitter:

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
FYI, @BadgerFootball. RT @NFL_ATL Mayock's Top 5 RBs: 1. Eddie Lacy 2. Montee Ball 3. Andre Ellington 4. Giovani Bernard 5. Marcus Lattimore

so is the RB draft class really that weak, or is lattimore just that good?

usually guys coming off 2 blown out knees in the last two years and who might not play their rookie season don't go in the second round

[smuggler]

He'd have been the first RB off the board if he were fully healthy. He'll probably get drafted, but not until the 6th or 7th.

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He'd have been the first RB off the board if he were fully healthy. He'll probably get drafted, but not until the 6th or 7th.

i'm seeing almost every draft source saying he's a second rounder right now, thats why i made the comment

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also in draft news. ILB alec ogletree, who we talked about on page one was just arrested for a DUI

[Fritz]

Sweet. His value drops, TT digs deep, finds out Ogletree is a good guy who made one mistake, then trades down into the second round, gets an extra third, still gets Ogletree in round two AND still has his second rounder, plus two third rounders.

And while all this is going on, Drew Barrymore is texting me, telling me she gets off on talking about the Packers while she's having sex.

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Sweet. His value drops, TT digs deep, finds out Ogletree is a good guy who made one mistake, then trades down into the second round, gets an extra third, still gets Ogletree in round two AND still has his second rounder, plus two third rounders.

And while all this is going on, Drew Barrymore is texting me, telling me she gets off on talking about the Packers while she's having sex.

lol

wasn't a one time thing though. he was suspended 4 games this year for a drug violation, he was also suspended for theft his freshman year

3 red flags might be too much for TT

but i am pretty sure drew does get off on talking about the packers

[Guiness]

Sweet. His value drops, TT digs deep, finds out Ogletree is a good guy who made one mistake, then trades down into the second round, gets an extra third, still gets Ogletree in round two AND still has his second rounder, plus two third rounders.

And while all this is going on, Drew Barrymore is texting me, telling me she gets off on talking about the Packers while she's having sex.

Does this look like a guy who's only made one mistake?


No more than this looks like a girl who needs to sext to get off

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* not drew barrymore