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  • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
    I agree with this. The big "problem" with the DL is that most of them are still not fully developed. DL seems to take the longest to grow into in the NFL.
    For sure, at least when it comes to playing the run. Raji, Worthy, Daniels all came in with explosive first steps and contributed as pass rushers. Raji eventually grew into the NT role and I'm still not sure he's better at it than Pickett was.
    70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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    • Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
      A replacement for Jenkins is exactly what he is, if anything Neal anchors better than Jenkins did. Jenkins saw his fair share of rag dollings when playing the run but when you get that 300+ lb player that can excel as a pass rusher, you take the bad with the good.

      Raji will probably be resigned, Pickett's decline is marginal to nonexistent at this point but I agree with you anyways. In the SB year we had Howard Green off the street who gave Capers some great options for formations and subs.

      Walden's speed is his issue. His instincts fail him sometimes too but he's got super physical playing style, he's just too damn slow to be trusted on the edge and is ineffective as a pass rusher. Dom has played him inside on occasion, most notably during the 2010-2011 playoffs where he was playing his best ball for us. He's bigger but more importantly meaner than anything we've got inside at this point.

      Effective 3-4 outside linebackers are much more valuable and rare than effective 3-4 linebackers. They would never move Perry unless they've ruled him out as a pass rusher or you have more than 2 good ones and are just trying to get your best guys on the field. We already know Walden is a lousy pass rusher, we also know that at their current weights Walden is a lot less robotic in his direction changes and less of a liability in coverage. So yeah, terrible idea.

      Do my conclusion and the reasoning behind them not count because they don't have the endorsement of Leroy Butler? The beauty of giving my reasons for my thoughts, is you can explain why you think they are wrong, should you be up for some critical thinking, rather than just hiding behind McGinn, Butler, and Skip Bayless or whoever else you trust for your analysis.
      You left out many critical thinkers from this board who will be upset. Please no beauty.

      Its interesting because this board talks about Pickett's demise which I disagee -- age is the bigger concern. You are assuming Raji is resigned. Raji is too inconsistent and gets engulfed too much -- plus takes off too many plays. IMO overrated and unreliable.

      BTW Howard Green is long gone. CJ is okay and pretty stout against the run.

      Boy your analysis on Walden just does not warrant a comment.

      What other solutions do you have for ilb next to Bishop. Who said the org is not considering moving Perry inside?

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      • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
        No -- who won the game? Didn't CK have that many yds against the Packers by himself?
        But didn't you just say Gore had 29 yards rushing against the Ravens?
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        This is museum quality stupidity.

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        • Originally posted by Zool View Post
          But didn't you just say Gore had 29 yards rushing against the Ravens?
          Yes -- I made a BIG MISTAKE

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          • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
            Yes -- I made a BIG MISTAKE
            So would you say the huge and powerful Ravens front 7 didn't do well? What with giving up 6.3ypc for the game?
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • Originally posted by Zool View Post
              So would you say the huge and powerful Ravens front 7 didn't do well? What with giving up 6.3ypc for the game?
              49 ers vs. Packers 43 carries 323 yards 4 rushing tds WIN

              49 ers vs, Ravens 29 carries 182 yards 2 rushing tds LOSS


              You Decide (not a political statement)

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              • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                So would you say the huge and powerful Ravens front 7 didn't do well? What with giving up 6.3ypc for the game?
                What is your solution?

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                • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                  49 ers vs. Packers 43 carries 323 yards 4 rushing tds WIN

                  49 ers vs, Ravens 29 carries 182 yards 2 rushing tds LOSS


                  You Decide (not a political statement)
                  So anything contrary to your point is moot. Got it. Just checking.
                  Originally posted by 3irty1
                  This is museum quality stupidity.

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                  • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                    So anything contrary to your point is moot. Got it. Just checking.
                    Sore loser.

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                    • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                      49 ers vs. Packers 43 carries 323 yards 4 rushing tds WIN

                      49 ers vs, Ravens 29 carries 182 yards 2 rushing tds LOSS


                      You Decide (not a political statement)
                      Now that is a useful comparison. Now tell me how much of the difference was Gore inside versus Kaepernick outside and scrambling?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Now that is a useful comparison. Now tell me how much of the difference was Gore inside versus Kaepernick outside and scrambling?
                        Who cares -- CK killed the Packers on zone reads and made plays against the Ravens on scrambles and designed runs.

                        I know you will correct me -- CK had something like 68 yds rushing against the ravens and 182 vs. the packers -- quick correct me.

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                        • Not at all. But those numbers tell us something. It points to a problem with outside the tackle defense and possibly with deep run support.

                          It also is an indication that the choice to play defense from inside out was perilous and presented such danger from CK that no other playoff team wanted any part of it.

                          These things mitigate, to a certain degree, the culpability of the interior of the defensive line.

                          Now the QB scrambling and a failure to take him down on a sack? That is on the pass rushers and as we asked about the Packer troubles with Peterson, how long does it take for the players to adhere to a disciplined approach in game? I think that speaks to coaching as well as personnel.

                          There are numerous issues to be addressed. One of them is not: Ted Thompson has forgotten how to draft in this day and age.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                            Who cares -- CK killed the Packers on zone reads and made plays against the Ravens on scrambles and designed runs.

                            I know you will correct me -- CK had something like 68 yds rushing against the ravens and 182 vs. the packers -- quick correct me.
                            Your whole basis was the Packers need bigger players. Wouldn't bigger (and most likely slower) players be more susceptible to scrambles and designed runs to guys like CK?

                            Please spare me the "Packers just need the Ngata, Wilfork types." There's a reason those are of the best DL of the past 10 years.
                            Go PACK

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                            • I'm beginning to think this thread is some kind of social experiment to prove how lousy an internet forum would be if one of the posters was a reactionary that couldn't pass a Turing test. Mad you making robots?

                              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                              • Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                                I'm beginning to think this thread is some kind of social experiment to prove how lousy an internet forum would be if one of the posters was a reactionary that couldn't pass a Turing test. Mad you making robots?

                                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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