Finley, Williams & Hawk

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Do you honestly think you can find a guy in the 3rd or 4th round who is ready to be an instant starter and be a consistent leader on a defense from day 1, because Hawk was. Hawk has been the top 1 or 2 tackler on our D since he got here. I don't understand why being a consistent tackler is such an undervalued trait. We don't win because of what he does? He tackles the ball carrier. That directly leads to wins.

Now, just so I got this straight. You believe Hawk is easy to replace. You believe it's easy to find not only a defensive leader, leading tackler and a durable player, but also a player who is involved in many more sacks and turnovers for about the same price that you're paying Hawk. I don't believe that is realistic. Do you think when Desmond Bishop is up again that he'll only take 7 mil a year?

It's just getting so tiring defending this guy. Is he great? No. Is he bad? No. He's a C+, B- student. He gets paid what he's worth. Thompson just worked this deal out with the guy, he's not going to dump it a year into it.

What evidence do you have that he is a leader? I don't buy it, but if he is the leader then we need a new one.

In 10 games Jones had a slightly higher tackles per game average while also forcing a fumble. Something our defensive leader hasn't done since 2007. Think about that for a second. What exactly is so difficult to replace?

[Iron Mike]

Grater plater?? Later, tater....

[Pugger]

Twice in the last 4 seasons Hawk has been voted by his teammates to be a captain in the playoffs so this tells me he is one of the team leaders in the locker room.

http://packers.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers_playoff_captains

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Speaking of TEs, Quarless is getting a pay increase:

Aaron Nagler @Aaron_Nagler
Per @TomSilverstein, Andrew Quarless reached an escalator that took his pay from $575,000 to $1.323 million. He did not play a down in 2012.

[Patler]

It would be interesting to know what the escalator required.

[swede]

It would be interesting to know what the escalator required.

Especially since he spent the last year taking the escalator instead of the stairs.

[Fritz]

Maybe his sister didn't tweet anything negative.

[Fritz]

Or maybe it was tied to the Pope's resignation.

[denverYooper]

It would be interesting to know what the escalator required.

I'd heard it was for time played over the first 3 seasons.

[Patler]

Must have been a pretty low standard, he played only 23 of 48 regular season games.

[Patler]

It is starting to come back to me now. There was uncertainty in 2010 over what the new CBA would provide for RFAs, FAs etc. In the uncapped year players completing their 4th years were not FAs but RFAs instead, and 2010 rookies were being asked to sign 4 year contracts, not knowing if they would or wouldn't be giving up their RFA year or not.

Apparently in response to that uncertainty, it was common in rookie contracts signed in 2010 for nearly automatic increases to the RFA tender amounts in the fourth seasons, depending on how much they played in years 1-3. The increase was more or less automatic if the new CBA ultimately agreed to retained RFA provisions similar to the old CBA (4th year=RFA, after 4th year=FA). So, instead of Quarless being an RFA this year, he gets an automatic increase to an RFA tender. His bump is to the lowest RFA tender, apparently because he has not played much. I suspect if he had played more, his bump would have been to one of the higher RFA tender amounts.

[Brandon494]

Lmao of course you gotta get your shot on Finley. Can we just release Hawk already and call it a day?

[Patler]

Lmao of course you gotta get your shot on Finley. Can we just release Hawk already and call it a day?

Who? Me? What shot did I take at Finley?

I identified the 2nd, 3rd and 4th highest paid on the team, all of whom, coincidentally have been talked about in the news as being possible cap cuts. I asked if others thought any will be cut.

I have also said I expect the Packers to extend Finley.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Patler is no friend of Hawk's.

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Twice in the last 4 seasons Hawk has been voted by his teammates to be a captain in the playoffs so this tells me he is one of the team leaders in the locker room.

http://packers.wikia.com/wiki/Green_...ayoff_captains

If his leadership is such a virtue then why not all four years? Considering the uninspired play from the defense the last two years I find it to be a poor argument.
The excuses for him are dwindling so it's understandable. Last year this discussion would have included how good he is at relaying the calls and getting everyone lined up correctly.