Packers Want Jackson "AT THEIR PRICE"

[Rutnstrut]

The bottom line is it's TT's job to entice these players to GB and then sign them once they are there. In this aspect of his job he is failing miserably, the teams that are successful in free agency are smooth when it comes to wining and dining prospects. TT and company, not so much. They need to get over themselves and realize not everyone is going to want to come to GB just to play for the "storied Green Bay Packers". They may have to (gasp) actually spend a little money, and smooth talk a bit.

[Joemailman]

The bottom line is it's TT's job to entice these players to GB and then sign them once they are there. In this aspect of his job he is failing miserably, the teams that are successful in free agency are smooth when it comes to wining and dining prospects. TT and company, not so much. They need to get over themselves and realize not everyone is going to want to come to GB just to play for the "storied Green Bay Packers". They may have to (gasp) actually spend a little money, and smooth talk a bit.

And maybe change the weather?

[Patler]

The bottom line is it's TT's job to entice these players to GB and then sign them once they are there.

That definitely is not his job. His job is to put a roster on the field that is the best he can do within the confines of the salary cap, etc. How he chooses to use free agency to do that is completely up to him. He is under no obligation at all to participate in the expensive end of FA.

[Rutnstrut]

Boy some of you not only drink the Kool Aid, but smoke the Packer pot as well.

[KYPack]

Anything you say, Rut.

[George Cumby]

Boy some of you not only drink the Kool Aid, but smoke the Packer pot as well.

I envision Patler as a dignified, older gentleman, kind of Gregory Peck-ish. And the visual of this solemn, thoughtful man taking a bong hit makes me giggle.

[Patler]

I envision Patler as a dignified, older gentleman, kind of Gregory Peck-ish. And the visual of this solemn, thoughtful man taking a bong hit makes me giggle.

Ah...the 1960s!

[Pugger]

Boy some of you not only drink the Kool Aid, but smoke the Packer pot as well.

You wanted TT to sign Jackson for more than 4 million? I suspect if TT offered him $4.5M he would have gone running back to the Falcons to see if they'd match that. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get into a bidding war for a 30 year old back with that kind of mileage. He's not that far removed from falling off the cliff as far as production like Michael Turner before him. I'd rather TT spend that money on a couple of players we already have = mainly Rodgers and CM3.

[swede]

I envision Patler as a dignified, older gentleman, kind of Gregory Peck-ish. And the visual of this solemn, thoughtful man taking a bong hit makes me giggle.

Well at least he didn't embarrass himself by blowing into it.

In my defense, the only prior frame of reference I had was a bubble pipe.

[pbmax]

You wanted TT to sign Jackson for more than 4 million? I suspect if TT offered him $4.5M he would have gone running back to the Falcons to see if they'd match that. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get into a bidding war for a 30 year old back with that kind of mileage. He's not that far removed from falling off the cliff as far as production like Michael Turner before him. I'd rather TT spend that money on a couple of players we already have = mainly Rodgers and CM3.

Not true Pugger, If you are charming enough and a good enough host like Jerry Jones or Jared Allen, you can get players to sign for less. Its never about the money. Its all about hospitality.

[red]

Ah...the 1960s!

now i'm picturing patler as donald sutherland from animal house

[Bretsky]

I know what you are getting at. But when he has spent FA money, he has gotten a decent return and ever resigned two of those guys again. And both guys were signed despite some un-Ted specifications. Wood was asking for the moon with no market to back him up. Pickett had two teams bidding for him.

Right or wrong, he goes into it with clear idea of value and need and doesn't move off it unless he feels he must. He has been right more often than wrong. Lynch and Gonzalez might have been misses even by Ted's standards.

Once could also interpret your thoughts as an argument that TT should dip into FA more often because when he has taken a big swing he has succeeded.
I've said many a times it's not about slightly underpaying...or overpaying....it's about making sure you pick the right guy. There are almost always ways to restructure and make the money work if you choose to.

Fifteen years from now, perhaps AROD will have 2-3 more titles and we'll be glorifying the stratgey. Perhaps AROD finishes like Favre with only one title and we all wonder what if TT had taken a few more swings for the home run hitters because we had a MVP caliber QB for many years and never won the big show again.

I am always torn on my views. You guys all know I am intrigued by using a combination of the free agency and the draft to build a team.

I said for years when TT brings GB a title I won't rip him for two years......I did my part....but the window has closed.

In the end I have a wait and see view but I undoubtely don't expect any major moves in Free agency during the month or March anytime soon.

[Pugger]

And he swung and missed on Saturday, Hargrove, Muir and Merling.

[pbmax]

And he swung and missed on Saturday, Hargrove, Muir and Merling.

I am more upset with Klemm and Marquand Manuel the safety. They needed those guys to do something. Merling was a big guy who never delivered on his physical dimensions and didn't even make the roster. It was an extended road test. Muir was exactly who he has always been, still not sure why they didn't keep him unless they thought Worthy or Daniels would be him. Hargrove never had a shot after the Bounty-gate fiasco.

Saturday I put on McCarthy. He explicitly wanted someone to run the no-huddle and by that parameter, they got the lesser player of those available.

[Bretsky]

And he swung and missed on Saturday, Hargrove, Muir and Merling.

I don't even consider these swings. If you are going to poach bargain basement minimal wage guys....there is no loss if they don't cut it.
We spent next to nothing on these guys