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  • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    Advanced Free Agency---Incomplete-Turns to C Minus at the end---- This is the class he cuts at the beginning to go off and spend more time on his interests of the other courses. He often attends the last month just to skate by with a passing grade but he sits in the back corner rarely participating
    I know what you are getting at. But when he has spent FA money, he has gotten a decent return and ever resigned two of those guys again. And both guys were signed despite some un-Ted specifications. Wood was asking for the moon with no market to back him up. Pickett had two teams bidding for him.

    Right or wrong, he goes into it with clear idea of value and need and doesn't move off it unless he feels he must. He has been right more often than wrong. Lynch and Gonzalez might have been misses even by Ted's standards.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      I think Jackson used the Packers to get what he wanted - a Falcons uni.
      Probably, and that's part of the game. I can't really blame him for it. Tom Silverstein's column today in the Journal Sentinel made some good arguments why Atlanta would be attractive to Jackson. One good point he made: He's never had to be a cold weather outdoors back, and he's going from one dome team to a much better dome team.
      Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
      Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        I know what you are getting at. But when he has spent FA money, he has gotten a decent return and ever resigned two of those guys again. And both guys were signed despite some un-Ted specifications. Wood was asking for the moon with no market to back him up. Pickett had two teams bidding for him.

        Right or wrong, he goes into it with clear idea of value and need and doesn't move off it unless he feels he must. He has been right more often than wrong. Lynch and Gonzalez might have been misses even by Ted's standards.
        Though its hard to argue them after winning a Super Bowl without them.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Though its hard to argue them after winning a Super Bowl without them.
          Not only did we win a superbowl without them, missing out on Lynch might be the reason we won the superbowl as he went to Seattle instead where he singlehandedly knocked off the Saints. Had Lynch not been able to disrupt the natural order of things, the perennial playoff laughing stock Bears would likely have been obliterated by the Saints as they were by us. This would have led to the Saints playing us in the NFCC instead and could have prevented us from making it to the superbowl.

          Ted's not just a good GM. He's a timelord.
          70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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          • I wish I was a timelord.
            - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              I know what you are getting at. But when he has spent FA money, he has gotten a decent return and ever resigned two of those guys again. And both guys were signed despite some un-Ted specifications. Wood was asking for the moon with no market to back him up. Pickett had two teams bidding for him.

              Right or wrong, he goes into it with clear idea of value and need and doesn't move off it unless he feels he must. He has been right more often than wrong. Lynch and Gonzalez might have been misses even by Ted's standards.
              While we're discussing Ted Thompson and miss's in free agency. I believe time will prove that Ted Thompson has made a sure miss on FA RB Steven Jackson. I'm positioning myself right there because we have proof that Steven Jackson was affordable. Ted Thompson could have easily accomodated his price.

              This is my 'only defense' of Ted Thompson.

              We have to wait for a clearer picture of why SJ is not a Green Bay Packer. We can spin various reasons why that isn't so when the TRUTH must come from Steven Jackson. Ultimately the 'free agent' decides his destination based on what's best for him. The money on the table is a powerful incentive in regards to a choice.

              In any manner of looking at this:

              We'll never be able to appreciate just how much, having Steven Jackson, as a Green Bay Packer, would have improved the chemistry and offense on our team. How often have we seen an opportunity of getting a power RB who can receive and block like Steven Jackson come along? The Green Bay Packers wouldn't have had to commit to him for a long time.

              Right now...not getting Steven Jackson sucks. That man would have gone a long ways towords greater protection for the best asset on the Green Bay Packers...Aaron Rodgers.

              Right now... seeing Stephen Jackson go to Atlanta sucks X times two.

              Atlanta has improved it's position for the 2013 season 'offensively', re-signing Tony Gonzalez and signing Steven Jackson. Today the Atlanta Falcons are a better team than they were before acquiring Steven Jackson. Today the Atlanta Falcons and Falcon fans believe that next season they will give the San Fran 49ers a real run to get to the Super Bowl.

              Here's a simple question for y'all; a final line.

              Is having Steven Jackson in Atlanta a really good thing for us? Did we improve by missing out on Steven Jackson?

              What will Ted Thompson do to counter the moves we are seeing Atlanta and San Francisco and Seattle making so far in Free Agency? Many of you want to make Ted Thompson's attitude and Free Agency about retaining his own. As noble as that may seem. I believe he can do more. It's simply a matter of 'cutting the deadwood', now not later, to get that and more done.

              GO PACK GO !
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              • Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                Well super Ted fucks up again, but I'm sure it will all be fine because Rodgers is the QB.
                There is more than a decent chance that Jackson wanted to play for Atlanta all along and his agent used us to sweeten the deal. I suspect SJ wanted to continue to play his home games in a dome rather than outside like he would here.

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                • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                  While we're discussing Ted Thompson and miss's in free agency. I believe time will prove that Ted Thompson has made a sure miss on FA RB Steven Jackson. I'm positioning myself right there because we have proof that Steven Jackson was affordable. Ted Thompson could have easily accomodated his price.

                  This is my 'only defense' of Ted Thompson.

                  We have to wait for a clearer picture of why SJ is not a Green Bay Packer. We can spin various reasons why that isn't so when the TRUTH must come from Steven Jackson. Ultimately the 'free agent' decides his destination based on what's best for him. The money on the table is a powerful incentive in regards to a choice.

                  In any manner of looking at this:

                  We'll never be able to appreciate just how much, having Steven Jackson, as a Green Bay Packer, would have improved the chemistry and offense on our team. How often have we seen an opportunity of getting a power RB who can receive and block like Steven Jackson come along? The Green Bay Packers wouldn't have had to commit to him for a long time.

                  Right now...not getting Steven Jackson sucks. That man would have gone a long ways towords greater protection for the best asset on the Green Bay Packers...Aaron Rodgers.

                  Right now... seeing Stephen Jackson go to Atlanta sucks X times two.

                  Atlanta has improved it's position for the 2013 season 'offensively', re-signing Tony Gonzalez and signing Steven Jackson. Today the Atlanta Falcons are a better team than they were before acquiring Steven Jackson. Today the Atlanta Falcons and Falcon fans believe that next season they will give the San Fran 49ers a real run to get to the Super Bowl.

                  Here's a simple question for y'all; a final line.

                  Is having Steven Jackson in Atlanta a really good thing for us? Did we improve by missing out on Steven Jackson?

                  What will Ted Thompson do to counter the moves we are seeing Atlanta and San Francisco and Seattle making so far in Free Agency? Many of you want to make Ted Thompson's attitude and Free Agency about retaining his own. As noble as that may seem. I believe he can do more. It's simply a matter of 'cutting the deadwood', now not later, to get that and more done.

                  GO PACK GO !
                  If the FREE AGENT doesn't want to play for you for whatever reason that isn't the fault of the GM. Jackson wanted to play indoors. What I find rather incredible is Atlanta going for another aging RB after they saw Turner's ability go south.

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                  • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                    What will Ted Thompson do to counter the moves we are seeing Atlanta and San Francisco and Seattle making so far in Free Agency?

                    GO PACK GO !
                    Oh, I don't know. Probably the same thing he did a couple of years ago to counter the moves made by the Philadelphia Eagles. Which is to say he will continue to build the team his way and not worry much about the moves made by other teams. Teams, by the way, who have never won a Super Bowl, or haven't won one in recent memory.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Well if TT hadn't fucked up on getting Lynch we would not even be having this discussion. The bottom line is if super Ted can't do it his way, he says fuck it.

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                      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Oh, I don't know. Probably the same thing he did a couple of years ago to counter the moves made by the Philadelphia Eagles. Which is to say he will continue to build the team his way and not worry much about the moves made by other teams. Teams, by the way, who have never won a Super Bowl, or haven't won one in recent memory.
                        Hold on to that SB, because the 49ers are going to continue to make GB their bitches. That is if the Packer coaching staff and management continue to stay the course and do nothing.

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                        • Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                          Not only did we win a superbowl without them, missing out on Lynch might be the reason we won the superbowl as he went to Seattle instead where he singlehandedly knocked off the Saints. Had Lynch not been able to disrupt the natural order of things, the perennial playoff laughing stock Bears would likely have been obliterated by the Saints as they were by us. This would have led to the Saints playing us in the NFCC instead and could have prevented us from making it to the superbowl.

                          Ted's not just a good GM. He's a timelord.


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                          PLAYMAKERS!

                          EXTERMINATE TT! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
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                          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Oh, I don't know. Probably the same thing he did a couple of years ago to counter the moves made by the Philadelphia Eagles. Which is to say he will continue to build the team his way and not worry much about the moves made by other teams. Teams, by the way, who have never won a Super Bowl, or haven't won one in recent memory.
                            I'm NOT directing this post directly at you Joemailman:

                            'Ohh Yee of too much faith.'

                            The results this season won't have as much to do with anything the Green Bay Packers did in 2010; in any season prior to that. Compared to what the Green Bay Packers do in this off season period. To prepare to be competitive with the top teams.
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                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              Oh, I don't know. Probably the same thing he did a couple of years ago to counter the moves made by the Philadelphia Eagles. Which is to say he will continue to build the team his way and not worry much about the moves made by other teams. Teams, by the way, who have never won a Super Bowl, or haven't won one in recent memory.
                              Some teams never learn, department...

                              The Eagles have signed 6 or 7 FA's this off-season.

                              But, this time it's different ya know?

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                              • Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                                Hold on to that SB, because the 49ers are going to continue to make GB their bitches. That is if the Packer coaching staff and management continue to stay the course and do nothing.
                                Someone's being a negative Nancy.
                                - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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