Jennings signs with Vikings

[Guiness]

I suspect last summer/fall GJ was hoping for more than $10M. Then, after GJ spent a good part of the season on the injured list, and Cobb really stepped up, the Packers were no longer willing to pay the $10M or even very close to it. Jennings may feel slighted if the Packers actually came back and said, "Then was then, now is now. Here's a new offer for $7M/year."

Jennings guessed wrong when $10M was on the table from GB, and the Packers probably are glad he did.

That's a lot more believable and likely than the idea that he was anxious to get out of GB. Despite what his vapour-locked sister had to say, why would be anxious to leave the Pack? His last contract was good, he was getting a lot of exposure and endorsements, and another contract was being offered. I don't buy the 'he was insulted' crap, I think GB adjusted their offer and someone else jumped in with stupid money.

[Old School]

I think Greg Jennings changed. When he first came to GB, he was a team first, All American good guy. Then came success along with public recognition and adulation, money, and TV work on commercials. At that point he thought he was something he really wasn't. He couldn't live with not being #1 as he saw teamates, especially Randall Cobb eclipsing his contributions.

Too bad to see success spoil such a good guy. He isn't the first and won't be the last. The new Greg Jennings was no longer a fit in Green Bay. Or should I say Green Bay was no longer a fit for Greg. Hope he's happy in 'the BIG CITY".South Beach it ain't.

[Bretsky]

This is a good deal for the Vikings...who....if you recall...finished the season strongly last year and really seemed to be starting to fulfill expectations

The Vikings received a first plus l for Harvin and then added Jennings...combined IMO...nice moves.

On GB's side....no surprises.....not terribly disappointing. Free Agency is what it is when you are a Packer fan. The draft is coming soon.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is a good deal for the Vikings...who....if you recall...finished the season strongly last year and really seemed to be starting to fulfill expectations

The Vikings received a first plus l for Harvin and then added Jennings...combined IMO...nice moves.

On GB's side....no surprises.....not terribly disappointing. Free Agency is what it is when you are a Packer fan. The draft is coming soon.

I think the end result is very good for the Vikings--although I'm glad the Packers were able to push the cost of Jennings up a bit. It is a lot to tie up into a nearly 30-year-old receiver who has been a bit injury prone lately. More than the Vikings finish last year, I'm more worried that the Vikings may have found a GM. He is building the Vikings the right way (through the draft). They were just desperate to get any quality receiver on the roster, but otherwise he had a good draft last year and they aren't wasting a lot of money on FAs. I think they overachieved last year, and I doubt any RB (even one as good as Peterson) is going to be able to duplicate the season he had. That team is still too dependent on Peterson. But the GM is doing it the right way. The thing that gives me hope is that I don't think Ponder has what it takes. Even in that four game run at the end of last year, they won in spite of him. He averaged 130 yards/game with 1 TD, 1 int, 2 fumbles in the first 3 games, and I think our game was a fluke. He had the tipped ball for a first down and we left Wright wide open for 65 yards on another play. Take out those two plays and I think he would have had around 145 yards passing.

[packrulz]

This is a good deal for the Vikings...who....if you recall...finished the season strongly last year and really seemed to be starting to fulfill expectations

The Vikings received a first plus l for Harvin and then added Jennings...combined IMO...nice moves.

On GB's side....no surprises.....not terribly disappointing. Free Agency is what it is when you are a Packer fan. The draft is coming soon.

Jennings will be the #1 receiver, if he starts and stays healthy, the Packers should get a higher compensatory pick for him.

[pbmax]

I think the end result is very good for the Vikings--although I'm glad the Packers were able to push the cost of Jennings up a bit. It is a lot to tie up into a nearly 30-year-old receiver who has been a bit injury prone lately. More than the Vikings finish last year, I'm more worried that the Vikings may have found a GM. He is building the Vikings the right way (through the draft). They were just desperate to get any quality receiver on the roster, but otherwise he had a good draft last year and they aren't wasting a lot of money on FAs. I think they overachieved last year, and I doubt any RB (even one as good as Peterson) is going to be able to duplicate the season he had. That team is still too dependent on Peterson. But the GM is doing it the right way. The thing that gives me hope is that I don't think Ponder has what it takes. Even in that four game run at the end of last year, they won in spite of him. He averaged 130 yards/game with 1 TD, 1 int, 2 fumbles in the first 3 games, and I think our game was a fluke. He had the tipped ball for a first down and we left Wright wide open for 65 yards on another play. Take out those two plays and I think he would have had around 145 yards passing.

Who is the head of the triangle of authority now?

[pbmax]

From Today's McGinn:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/jennings-passes-on-packers-8-million-offer-em96ep8-198638301.html

Bob tells us Packers offered $11 million per year in talks last year that Jennings turned down as he was looking for $15 mil. If true (and its possible this is a repeat of last year's info), this would be Jennings looking to get paid like Vincent Jackson, who fleeced the Bucs I think. These numbers are next to useless without details but we have what we have. According to Bob, these talks occurred before the concussion and hernia. After these, the offer was down to $8 million per. No details on length, guarantee or up front money here either.

Bob also unearths an offer from the Patriots who were bargain shopping and offered Jennings a $6 mil per deal similar to Amendola's.

Bob repeats his source says Philbin was not high on getting Jennings to the Dolphins.

[Guiness]

From Today's McGinn:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/jennings-passes-on-packers-8-million-offer-em96ep8-198638301.html

Bob tells us Packers offered $11 million per year in talks last year that Jennings turned down as he was looking for $15 mil. If true (and its possible this is a repeat of last year's info), this would be Jennings looking to get paid like Vincent Jackson, who fleeced the Bucs I think. These numbers are next to useless without details but we have what we have. According to Bob, these talks occurred before the concussion and hernia. After these, the offer was down to $8 million per. No details on length, guarantee or up front money here either.

Bob also unearths an offer from the Patriots who were bargain shopping and offered Jennings a $6 mil per deal similar to Amendola's.

Bob repeats his source says Philbin was not high on getting Jennings to the Dolphins.

If the part about the Packer's offer is true, I can see why he would have been upset and held somewhat of a grudge against the Packers.

Not saying rightfully so, but it'd be pretty damn hard to watch at least $3M/year of pay go out the door because of something that happened on the job. Football players all say they know every play could be their last, blah blah blah, but when the cold harsh reality of it comes happens it has to be hard to swallow. I also wonder if his sister's rant might've had something to do with his feelings, although I'm sure he still wishes she'd of kept her mouth shut.

[Joemailman]

If the part about the Packer's offer is true, I can see why he would have been upset and held somewhat of a grudge against the Packers.

Not saying rightfully so, but it'd be pretty damn hard to watch at least $3M/year of pay go out the door because of something that happened on the job. Football players all say they know every play could be their last, blah blah blah, but when the cold harsh reality of it comes happens it has to be hard to swallow. I also wonder if his sister's rant might've had something to do with his feelings, although I'm sure he still wishes she'd of kept her mouth shut.

I see no reason why Jennings should hold any kind of a grudge against the Packers. If he turned down 11 million to go for 15, he was basically saying goodbye to the Packers because he wanted every dollar he could get. He made a decision to take a gamble and it didn't work out. That's life, but he made the decision. Then he got hurt, and the Packers found that could still put together a top-notch passing attack without him.

[red]

i think its only fair that if jennings turns down green bays initial 11 million dollar deal at the beginning of the season in the hopes of putting in a big season and driving up his value. then its only fair that the value goes down when he has the miserable injury filled year he had when you allow others to prove you are expendable

he gambled on himself and lost, then him and his family act like little bitches because they lost the gamble

[pbmax]

i think its only fair that if jennings turns down green bays initial 11 million dollar deal at the beginning of the season in the hopes of putting in a big season and driving up his value. then its only fair that the value goes down when he has the miserable injury filled year he had when you allow others to prove you are expendable

he gambled on himself and lost, then him and his family act like little bitches because they lost the gamble

Perhaps his sister was disappointed, but Jennings himself was solid during a year many players end up in the tank.

[Bretsky]

I think the end result is very good for the Vikings--although I'm glad the Packers were able to push the cost of Jennings up a bit. It is a lot to tie up into a nearly 30-year-old receiver who has been a bit injury prone lately. More than the Vikings finish last year, I'm more worried that the Vikings may have found a GM. He is building the Vikings the right way (through the draft). They were just desperate to get any quality receiver on the roster, but otherwise he had a good draft last year and they aren't wasting a lot of money on FAs. I think they overachieved last year, and I doubt any RB (even one as good as Peterson) is going to be able to duplicate the season he had. That team is still too dependent on Peterson. But the GM is doing it the right way. The thing that gives me hope is that I don't think Ponder has what it takes. Even in that four game run at the end of last year, they won in spite of him. He averaged 130 yards/game with 1 TD, 1 int, 2 fumbles in the first 3 games, and I think our game was a fluke. He had the tipped ball for a first down and we left Wright wide open for 65 yards on another play. Take out those two plays and I think he would have had around 145 yards passing.

FIVE CLAP POST; pretty much agree iwth everything in here. The Vikes GM, IMO.....has this team on the rise but they could easily see a six year win season as I too think they overachieved last year. I'm down the middle on Ponder....not as negative as you are but I'm not confident in him either. If he turns out the Vikes will be a team to fear. It looks like all of our NFC north competitors have made some moves that at least improve their team on paper next year

[pbmax]

I think the end result is very good for the Vikings--although I'm glad the Packers were able to push the cost of Jennings up a bit. It is a lot to tie up into a nearly 30-year-old receiver who has been a bit injury prone lately. More than the Vikings finish last year, I'm more worried that the Vikings may have found a GM. He is building the Vikings the right way (through the draft). They were just desperate to get any quality receiver on the roster, but otherwise he had a good draft last year and they aren't wasting a lot of money on FAs. I think they overachieved last year, and I doubt any RB (even one as good as Peterson) is going to be able to duplicate the season he had. That team is still too dependent on Peterson. But the GM is doing it the right way. The thing that gives me hope is that I don't think Ponder has what it takes. Even in that four game run at the end of last year, they won in spite of him. He averaged 130 yards/game with 1 TD, 1 int, 2 fumbles in the first 3 games, and I think our game was a fluke. He had the tipped ball for a first down and we left Wright wide open for 65 yards on another play. Take out those two plays and I think he would have had around 145 yards passing.

FIVE CLAP POST; pretty much agree iwth everything in here. The Vikes GM, IMO.....has this team on the rise but they could easily see a six year win season as I too think they overachieved last year. I'm down the middle on Ponder....not as negative as you are but I'm not confident in him either. If he turns out the Vikes will be a team to fear. It looks like all of our NFC north competitors have made some moves that at least improve their team on paper next year

The lights on your VCR blink 12:00 don't they Bretsky?

Its bclap enclosed by colons. Or click Go Advanced Instead of Post.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Who is the head of the triangle of authority now?

No triangle anymore. Rick Spielman has full control now--since the start of last year. He's modeled that franchise after what Ted Thompson is doing. Jennings is about the only big name FA he has signed in the last two offseasons. He was also quick to cut Winfield (even though he had a very good year last year) and was willing to trade Harvin before giving him big money for a 1st, 3rd, and 7th round picks. He's also willing to go young over keeping a veteran around. He also had a very good draft last year. What I've seen from him scares me more than any one player they've acquired.

[Joemailman]

No triangle anymore. Rick Spielman has full control now--since the start of last year. He's modeled that franchise after what Ted Thompson is doing. Jennings is about the only big name FA he has signed in the last two offseasons. He was also quick to cut Winfield (even though he had a very good year last year) and was willing to trade Harvin before giving him big money for a 1st, 3rd, and 7th round picks. He's also willing to go young over keeping a veteran around. He also had a very good draft last year. What I've seen from him scares me more than any one player they've acquired.

He's done a pretty good job with his draft picks. Still, whether he was right about Ponder will determine whether they can be on a par with Rodgers and the Packers. I think the acquisition of Jennings is in part to help making that determination.