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  • #46
    Hunt won't be gone by 26. If he goes in the 1st round, I will be surprised, tbh.

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    • #47
      Lately I'm becoming more convinced that the BPA at 26 will be a DT or DE, guys like Sylvester Williams, DT
      North Carolina, Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State, Jesse Williams, DT Alabama, Kawann Short, DT
      Purdue, Datone Jones, DE, UCLA, Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M, Alex Okafor, DE, Texas, & Margus Hunt, DE, SMU will still be there. Oregon linebacker Kiko Alonso might be a sleeper pick in the 3rd round, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/b...ist-has-healed
      Last edited by packrulz; 04-03-2013, 04:38 AM.
      Thanks Ted!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by packrulz View Post
        Lately I'm becoming more convinced that the BPA at 26 will be a DT or DE
        Just doing some pre-lim research, needs of the other teams and considering TT tendencies - yeah, I'm started to think that too.

        Some mock drafts have the Packers taking a RB - Lacy or Ball. I just don't see TT taking a RB in the first. The Packers need front 7 help on defense and those positions are the ones I think TT is going to look at in the first round.

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        • #49
          I suppose it always comes down to the question of which player would help the team more. For us, we tend to think of it by position (I do, mostly), but for TT it is sometimes "Will this running back, whom I think will be great, help us more than this defensive end, whom I think will be slightly above-average?"

          Having said that, I'm hoping for a defensive lineman, Pitt.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            I keep coming back to the same guys... by way of where these guys are generally ranked, I would love to see a draft that could come away with these guys in the first few rounds.

            1. Margus Hunt (think he'll be gone by 26)
            2. Trade down
            3. Brian Schwenke (C)
            3. Brandon Williams (DT/DE)
            4. Kiko Alonso (ILB)

            I like Alonso a lot... assuming he can put on another 15 lbs, he has the movement skills and athleticism to be an impact player. Williams is a big, strong DE/DT who can eat up snaps and eat up blocks. Schwenke has some size, an NFL body, and can give as good as he gets in the trenches.

            I'd like to see us get bigger and tougher in the trenches; and bigger and more athletic at ILB... just as soon cut bait with Hawk.
            You'd easily find a partner for that 2nd round pick. The 2nd round and 3rd rounds are stacked this year. Very deep draft, I'm surprised you couldn't find someone you liked.
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            • #51
              I agree, 3irty1. In fact, if anything, if we really love Hunt, we should trade down from 26 and then trade up back into the 2nd or 3rd for a fourth or perhaps fifth player in the top 3 rounds.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by packrulz View Post
                Lately I'm becoming more convinced that the BPA at 26 will be a DT or DE, guys like Sylvester Williams, DT
                North Carolina, Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State, Jesse Williams, DT Alabama, Kawann Short, DT
                Purdue, Datone Jones, DE, UCLA, Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M, Alex Okafor, DE, Texas, & Margus Hunt, DE, SMU will still be there. Oregon linebacker Kiko Alonso might be a sleeper pick in the 3rd round, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/b...ist-has-healed
                If we're talking athleticism and pick #26 and no reach and a defensive lineman.

                Johnathan Hankins isn't a good option where there will be some. Why!? Because of his conditioning, common sense in terms of endurance and whether or not his motivations are properly focused. This guy is slow. I'm seeing that on NFL.Com he's ranked at #26 on their Big Board. I trust that TT's Big Board has him slotted down in the high 30's - low 40's or not at all.

                RE: Round 1 Pick #26:

                I like DE Damontre Moore, Texas A&M but he would have to fall to us.

                DE's Datone Jones, UCLA; Cornellius Carridine, Florida State and Alex Okafor, Texas will give us good options.

                DT Jesse Williams, Alabama is a solid option at pick #26.

                Round 2 Pick #55:

                DT's John Jenkins, Georgia; Kawann Short, Purdue and Sylvester Williams, N. Carolina are all options for TT's Round 2 Pick #55.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  I keep coming back to the same guys... by way of where these guys are generally ranked, I would love to see a draft that could come away with these guys in the first few rounds.

                  1. Margus Hunt (think he'll be gone by 26)
                  2. Trade down
                  3. Brian Schwenke (C)
                  3. Brandon Williams (DT/DE)
                  4. Kiko Alonso (ILB)

                  I like Alonso a lot... assuming he can put on another 15 lbs, he has the movement skills and athleticism to be an impact player. Williams is a big, strong DE/DT who can eat up snaps and eat up blocks. Schwenke has some size, an NFL body, and can give as good as he gets in the trenches.

                  I'd like to see us get bigger and tougher in the trenches; and bigger and more athletic at ILB... just as soon cut bait with Hawk.
                  You have Margus Hunt rated that high. WOW!

                  I was thinking that posters were simply getting emotional about this prospect. I need to study him more.

                  Brandon Williams, DT/DE, Missouri Southern St. is a good option in Round 3 Pick #88. This fella is strong if your considering a good prospect on the defensive line and as late as Round 3.

                  Check him out:



                  As an option and Center...I'm looking at:

                  Brian Schwenke, California or Khaled Holmes, USC in Round 4 pick #122.

                  ILB Kiko Alonso, Oregon is someone I'd look at as an option to make us tougher. With so many of the prospects in this draft he does have issues. An unusual number of prospects in this draft have health/injury Red Flags. In some cases it's more. You can check that out for yourself and Kiko Alonso. It appears to me that this player is cleared to go in terms of a health risk.

                  I don't care who you draft as long as that prospect is absolutely sold on becoming a Green Bay Packer in terms of that being an honor. That that same football player has an outstanding character. Is solidly motivated, overall positive. Possesses leadership qualities and/or is a solid team player.



                  If you really really love Kiko Alonso you might pick him in Round 3 pick #88.

                  If he's there in Round 4 pick #122 ILB (OLB) Kiko Alonso might be more seriously considered as a bargain.

                  GO PACKERS !
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                    Hunt won't be gone by 26. If he goes in the 1st round, I will be surprised, tbh.
                    And here I'd be surprised if he was there. His upside is off the charts... he'll be drafted higher than his actual production would warrant.
                    wist

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      And here I'd be surprised if he was there. His upside is off the charts... he'll be drafted higher than his actual production would warrant.
                      That's what I love/hate about the NFL draft. Players are sometimes drafted very early due to potential alone or "wowed" at the Combine (Bruce Irvin last year comes to mind).

                      Hunt is really starting to grow on me. If he's there in the 1st when TT picks and takes him. I won't be upset.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                        You have Margus Hunt rated that high. WOW!

                        I was thinking that posters were simply getting emotional about this prospect. I need to study him more.

                        Brandon Williams, DT/DE, Missouri Southern St. is a good option in Round 3 Pick #88. This fella is strong if your considering a good prospect on the defensive line and as late as Round 3.

                        Check him out:



                        As an option and Center...I'm looking at:

                        Brian Schwenke, California or Khaled Holmes, USC in Round 4 pick #122.

                        ILB Kiko Alonso, Oregon is someone I'd look at as an option to make us tougher. With so many of the prospects in this draft he does have issues. An unusual number of prospects in this draft have health/injury Red Flags. In some cases it's more. You can check that out for yourself and Kiko Alonso. It appears to me that this player is cleared to go in terms of a health risk.

                        I don't care who you draft as long as that prospect is absolutely sold on becoming a Green Bay Packer in terms of that being an honor. That that same football player has an outstanding character. Is solidly motivated, overall positive. Possesses leadership qualities and/or is a solid team player.



                        If you really really love Kiko Alonso you might pick him in Round 3 pick #88.

                        If he's there in Round 4 pick #122 ILB (OLB) Kiko Alonso might be more seriously considered as a bargain.

                        GO PACKERS !
                        The list I put together would require some moving around, but that's how I'd approach it. Target the players you like, assess their value relative to where you think they'll go, and move around to get there. I think TT will just sit where he's at and take BPA.

                        I see our OL/DL's as being fatally weak. Power teams just beat us into the ground, and we are powerless to do anything about it. I'd much rather have Brandon Williams in the 3rd, than Monte Ball in the 2nd.

                        If we shored up C, DE/DT, and ILB?? I'd say we're right back to being a threat for the SB; but I don't think TT and MM see either line as a weakness. They could easily rationalize that EDS is a legit, full season starting C; and that Newhouse will improve, or that Sherrod will actually get on the field and produce (not holding my breath on either); or that playing a 2-4 nickel as your base defense is actually a good idea; or that AJ Hawk will be involved in a turnover play one of these years - more of what we had last year.

                        TT and MM are always preaching improve from within... coach a guy up, get him in the offseason conditioning program, and fill your holes that way - only problem is, I don't see the answers to our problem positions on the roster.
                        wist

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                          That's what I love/hate about the NFL draft. Players are sometimes drafted very early due to potential alone or "wowed" at the Combine (Bruce Irvin last year comes to mind).

                          Hunt is really starting to grow on me. If he's there in the 1st when TT picks and takes him. I won't be upset.
                          When I look at Hunt I see a kid who has only been playing the game for a few years, so he's learning the game and growing into his body... at 6'8" he's got plenty of frame to pack on another 20 lbs.

                          So imagine Hunt at 305-310 lbs, a year or two in an NFL offseason program, and some solid NFL coaching??

                          He could be a guy who impacts like JJ Watt and Julius Peppers. Even if it takes a year or two to get him developed, I don't think you pass on a guy with that kind of upside.
                          wist

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                          • #58
                            Watching his gangly play and long-striding somewhat loping running style in pursuit of runners immediately reminded me of a very short term Packer - Ted Hendricks. Like Hendricks, he grabs people and flings them around with his long arms.

                            Not saying he will be a HOF'er like Hendricks, but he has many of the same mannerisms in his play. (Hendricks was called "The Mad Stork" and "The Stork" for a reason!)

                            I wonder if he can block kicks like Hendricks did?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              Watching his gangly play and long-striding somewhat loping running style in pursuit of runners immediately reminded me of a very short term Packer - Ted Hendricks. Like Hendricks, he grabs people and flings them around with his long arms.

                              Not saying he will be a HOF'er like Hendricks, but he has many of the same mannerisms in his play. (Hendricks was called "The Mad Stork" and "The Stork" for a reason!)

                              I wonder if he can block kicks like Hendricks did?
                              He actually blocked seven kicks his first year - one short of the NCAA record, and another 3 in 2010.

                              To be sure, Hunt is raw. He's only been playing the game since 2009... but starting from scratch, he has improved every year to the point where you can now see him as a legit NFL DL.

                              If the Packers want to catch up to the Niners?? They're going to have to get bigger, faster, and more physical in their front seven, and along the OL. To me, a guy like Hunt certainly fits that discription in terms of ability.
                              wist

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                              • #60
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