Your Official Packers Draft Wish List

[woodbuck27]

6'3 260 is hardly going to hold up as a 4-3 DE. I don't think they had a solid plan for him when they drafted him.

Yes I believe so too. Shea McClellin had to be targeted as an OLB.

I wonder what Bretsky's feeling is about the Bears direction and Shea McClellin?

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[woodbuck27]

It comes down to body type for those DT/DE's.

Brandon Williams may be rated below Sylvester Williams, but that's dependent upon how you would use each guy. I think Brandon Williams can anchor inside better and play the nose as much as you need him to. I don't think you can say that of Sylvester Williams - or any of those other DT's. I think they could rotate at the nose, but I'm looking for a guy who can anchor down in there anytime you called on him.

That said, I'd be okay with Sylvester Williams, and maybe Hankins. The one I don't want is Jenkins.

I don't mean to screw up anyone's Mock Draft leanings; but here's some information. Specifically I refer to considerations on our DL at DT.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

29. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State

He might be an option in Round 1 Pick#26. He might be a better option if your picking early in the second round.

These other fellas would be considered in Round 2 Pick #55:

50. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia. According to other boards his placement here is about right.

55. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern... He might well be around for our Round three pick at #88. Everyone who's really interested has a Big Board. The boards on so many NFL Drafting Analysis sites certainly differ in terms of player ranking.

All that should matter to us is our confidence in Ted Thompson's board.

56. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina...Some boards have him ranked to go in the bottom third of Round 1.

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[wist43]

I don't mean to screw up anyone's Mock Draft leanings; but here's some information. Specifically I refer to considerations on our DL at DT.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

29. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State

He might be an option in Round 1 Pick#26. He might be a better option if your picking early in the second round.

These other fellas would be considered in Round 2 Pick #55:

50. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia. According to other boards his placement here is about right.

55. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern... He might well be around for our Round three pick at #88. Everyone who's really interested has a Big Board. The boards on so many NFL Drafting Analysis sites certainly differ in terms of player ranking.

All that should matter to us is our confidence in Ted Thompson's board.

56. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina...Some boards have him ranked to go in the bottom third of Round 1.

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Those are Rob Rang's rankings... I hadn't seen Brandon Williams that high anywhere else - but I have a sneaking hunch that his stock is higher than the earlier rankings. If TT likes him, and thinks he has to jump at pick 55 - I'd be okay with that.

I like Hankins, but not at 26 I don't think; I'd be okay with Sylvester Williams as well, but don't think he could consistently hold the nose.

As I said, I think it comes down to body type and how you would use each guy. I think there is need everywhere on the DL, so as long as they get a good player, and then use him properly, I'm fine with that.

[smuggler]

McClellin was a project pick for the Bears. If not for his future promise, he probably would not have made the 2012 roster on his ability alone.

In short, criticizing the pick now is a bit premature.

[pittstang5]

McClellin was a project pick for the Bears. If not for his future promise, he probably would not have made the 2012 roster on his ability alone.

In short, criticizing the pick now is a bit premature.

I wanted the Pack to take McClellin last year and the way things looked, it was a good possibilty that he'd be there when the Packers picked. His draft stock rose considerably leading up to the draft. Then, the Bears took him out of nowhere. That was a real head scratcher for me. I swear, the Bears took him because they knew the Packers were targeting him - LOL.

[Smeefers]

I wanted the Pack to take McClellin last year and the way things looked, it was a good possibilty that he'd be there when the Packers picked. His draft stock rose considerably leading up to the draft. Then, the Bears took him out of nowhere. That was a real head scratcher for me. I swear, the Bears took him because they knew the Packers were targeting him - LOL.

Haha, I thought the same thing.

[Smeefers]

I wonder, do you guys think that the team spends more time researching the front end of the draft or the back end of the draft? How does the media get it's draft boards? Are they personally doing the scouting or are they getting info from team scouts or is it a mixture of both?

[woodbuck27]

I wonder, do you guys think that the team spends more time researching the front end of the draft or the back end of the draft? How does the media get it's draft boards? Are they personally doing the scouting or are they getting info from team scouts or is it a mixture of both?

I'm may not answer your questions but this from my personal experience.

a) "I wonder, do you guys think that the team spends more time researching the front end of the draft or the back end of the draft?" Smeefers

I believe every pick in a draft should be seriously considered. That's how we find a Donald Driver drafted in Round 7 and becoming an All Time Packer Great.

We read it all that time that. The NFL draft:"It's all a crap shoot." As a Packer fan. I don't excuse a GM based on that statement.

We're aware as fans who the busts are. The ego of a team's GM and his Scouting Dept. is at stake in a draft. Overall and more importantly the life blood of that organization is focused on the teams results. Those results by far best served in the NFL draft. The results of that based in a solid effort to get it right. Picking the BPA when your on the clock for the entire seven rounds. Overall in terms of time that's best.

b) "How does the media get it's draft boards? Are they personally doing the scouting or are they getting info from team scouts or is it a mixture of both?" Smeffers

The Scouts do the scouting. The media interlopes to try to dig up information to present to us fans.

If I'm the GM of the Green Bay Packers and ' God Bless Ted Thompson's soul '.

No member of my Scouting Dept. is going to be talking to the media Re: draft prospects. Unless that man can lie better than me.

If my scout gets all yappy with the sports media (any media). He's going to end up behind closed doors with me and it won't be tea and crumpets. He's going to get seriously shaken down. Depended on his response he may get fired.

I cannot imagine the media expecting any serious response from NFL Draft Scouts in a direct sense. A Scout cannot meet with every prospect in the shadows. The media is aware of too much. The media will speculate and declare as it always has. To sell information, to make money.

Some more on this:

I've been working on my Mock Draft for the past few days. It's amazing the wealth of information that's available on the internet. You can compile alot of information on many draft eligible players and the closer a prospect is to being in that first round the more you'll find. The positions of prospects available in the Top 100 has taken solid shape since after the Combine and Pro Days schedule.

NFL Draft sites inform us of prospect's (rise and fall); exactly how much, between report.

You can get great tips on prospects and establishing status and grades/ranking data; by researching a site such as nfldraftscout.com. With all the action on Twitter; there's an excellent source. There's a problem with correlating all that's available to establish YOUR Big Board.

A poster here works his/her tail off to post 'a Seven Round Mock' and we'll see flaws in accordance with individual findings/effort. We all have different ideas of Green Bay Packer needs and and the value of this or that prospect. Emotions can kick in regarding rare prospects.

We're realizing all of that here on Packerrats. The best Internet NFL fan site to enjoy; enjoy learning from.

GO PACK GO!

[3irty1]

I was very please when the Bears took McClellin last year and we chose Perry over Upshaw. McClellin was just an average athlete and for a college impact player he didn't have many sacks. Especially for playing in the WAC.

Perry is a physical freak and had the college production you'd expect from a guy like that.

[Carolina_Packer]

Kenny Vaccaro anyone? Check this out. The question is, would he even still be there at 26 or would you have to move up to get him? I heard Tim and Pat on Sirius XM NFL Radio this afternoon and they were doing a mock draft and had Ted Thomson moving up to pick 22 to get Eddie Lacy, trading their 1st for that spot and also giving up a 4th and a 5th. I thought they were smoking something. Improving the run game is important, but not for that price.

[Joemailman]

Kenny Vaccaro anyone? Check this out. The question is, would he even still be there at 26 or would you have to move up to get him? I heard Tim and Pat on Sirius XM NFL Radio this afternoon and they were doing a mock draft and had Ted Thomson moving up to pick 22 to get Eddie Lacy, trading their 1st for that spot and also giving up a 4th and a 5th. I thought they were smoking something. Improving the run game is important, but not for that price.

I think you're right. They're smoking something. I've heard a lot of talk that the real strength of this draft is from the mid-1st through the 2nd round. Short on superstars but a lot of really good players. Given that, I think it's highly unlikely that TT trades picks to move up in the 1st round. He'll be happy to wait and see who falls to him, or even trade down out of the 1st round if someone offers a deal.

I'm not sure Vaccaro has the type of speed the Packers are looking for in a Safety. Not one you would draft in the 1st round, something TT has never done.

[Carolina_Packer]

I think you're right. They're smoking something. I've heard a lot of talk that the real strength of this draft is from the mid-1st through the 2nd round. Short on superstars but a lot of really good players. Given that, I think it's highly unlikely that TT trades picks to move up in the 1st round. He'll be happy to wait and see who falls to him, or even trade down out of the 1st round if someone offers a deal.

Yeah, I think TT trusts his ability to find RB talent most anywhere in the draft or free agency. But, we could both be wrong if Lacy is the back that they covet, but historically, this hardly seems TT's style.

[woodbuck27]

Kenny Vaccaro anyone? Check this out. The question is, would he even still be there at 26 or would you have to move up to get him? I heard Tim and Pat on Sirius XM NFL Radio this afternoon and they were doing a mock draft and had Ted Thomson moving up to pick 22 to get Eddie Lacy, trading their 1st for that spot and also giving up a 4th and a 5th. I thought they were smoking something. Improving the run game is important, but not for that price.

Hahahaha. Tim and/or Pat had a funny dream the night before that show.

Smart drafting in the NFL means not going RB in Round 1; unless you had a visit from 'the Draft God', informing you that 'that guy' is the next Adrian Peterson.

Smart drafting in the pass happy NFL emphsizes picking DL *approx. 26%; DB * 22%; WR *19%; and OL *11% in rounds 1 and 2. Going RB isn't a high strategy priority anymore. It's never been lucky for Ted Thompson. I'd be surprized if he went RB before round 4.

I wonder what the over/under is on any team going RB in Round one. It's not a bad bet that it won't happen. Better odds that Eddie Lacy might be drafted in round 1 will be contingent on him running his 40 sometime.

Basically the strongest teams are built an elite DL and drafting a secondary (DB's) filled with high-end talent. You don't place a priority on RB's and LBers. You do want LBers that are fast/strong enough to seal the edge. RB's that will give you a change of pace and punch on short yardage situations. Like the DL, you bulk up on the OL. You give your 'hopefully' franchise QB; WR's and a TE that are playmakers.

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[wist43]

I haven't looked at safties much... I don't see it as being much of a need compared to other positions.

Burnett is a keeper, and I'm willing to give McMillian, Jennings, and Richardson time to develop. Besides, fixing the front seven will go a lot further toward helping the secondary than adding another young guy. The mess that is our front seven makes it tough to evaluate the secondary.

If TT goes S early, whoever he picks had better be a difference maker - otherwise he's just spinning his wheels, and the team isn't substantially improved.

[pittstang5]

I haven't looked at safties much... I don't see it as being much of a need compared to other positions.

Burnett is a keeper, and I'm willing to give McMillian, Jennings, and Richardson time to develop. Besides, fixing the front seven will go a lot further toward helping the secondary than adding another young guy. The mess that is our front seven makes it tough to evaluate the secondary.

If TT goes S early, whoever he picks had better be a difference maker - otherwise he's just spinning his wheels, and the team isn't substantially improved.

Agree 100%.