Your Official Packers Draft Wish List

[wist43]

No!

The most important issue is keeping our QB behind center and not concussed in a hospital trying to figure out what put him there. On the sidelines simply not ready to take any more punishment. Watching the Packers get a royal shit kicking with an offense guided by one of our present backup QB's.

How is any defensive position player going to assure that doesn't happen?

You improve the running game to help protect your QB. You do that by upgrading our running game with a RB that has the real potential to do so.

Arn't you aware of the fact that Aaron Rodgers was sacked an outrageous 51 times?

Doesn't that concern you? It sure as hell better start concerning Ted Thompson. I don't see many options early in this draft going OL. I certainly see options and probable upgrade at RB.

TT has to at least be considering #26 and Eddie Lacy and that and more or less interest after his workout on April 11th.

TT has options in to name a few Johnathan Franklin, Stepfan Taylor and Montee Ball in rounds 2 and 3. If Ted Thompson doesn't come out of this draft with an option at RB he's clearly made an error.

Somebody posted that we were 16th in pass attempts - if we were 16th in pass attempts, and gave up the 2nd most sacks?? That's not a RB problem - that's an OL problem.

The Niners, Giants, and other power teams have clearly shown us where we are deficient. We may be deficient at RB, TE, and S - but our shortcomings at those position pale in comparison to how weak we are in the treches on both sides of the ball, and in our front seven in general.

We have to get tougher in the trenches, and we have to improve our front seven personnel, or we'll be right back here again next year lamenting the fact that the power teams beat us senseless again.

[Carolina_Packer]

Somebody posted that we were 16th in pass attempts - if we were 16th in pass attempts, and gave up the 2nd most sacks?? That's not a RB problem - that's an OL problem.

The Niners, Giants, and other power teams have clearly shown us where we are deficient. We may be deficient at RB, TE, and S - but our shortcomings at those position pale in comparison to how weak we are in the treches on both sides of the ball, and in our front seven in general.

We have to get tougher in the trenches, and we have to improve our front seven personnel, or we'll be right back here again next year lamenting the fact that the power teams beat us senseless again.

QFT.

[Carolina_Packer]

You improve the running game to help protect your QB. You do that by upgrading our running game with a RB that has the real potential to do so.

Yeah, Woody, I don't think they can afford status quo...but as I said in another post, this RB help, he'd better be a guy who can run and catch the ball, and most importantly pickup blitzes, and with the deception a good back can bring so as not to let the defense think it always knows when you are passing or running, soooo much the better for this offense, and it might slow the opposing defense's roll on blitzing, or pinning their ears back and coming at him. They need that to put pressure on the defense, and it hasn't really existed.

Arn't you aware of the fact that Aaron Rodgers was sacked an outrageous 51 times?

Coaches and personnel staff alike hate this, I'm sure. Did you notice what happened later in the year when Green Bay had a bit more of a run game? Rodgers wasn't sacked as many times. The opposing defense has to be forced to respect the run. It's also known that Rodgers tries to hold the ball longer to extend plays and will generally not throw the ball up for grabs and would rather take a sack than throw a pick. Wish we could build him a stone wall and give him some more clean pockets so could show off his athleticism a little less, if you know what I mean.

Doesn't that concern you? It sure as hell better start concerning Ted Thompson. I don't see many options early in this draft going OL. I certainly see options and probable upgrade at RB.

I think you make a good point. It must be difficult to think about committing more cap dollars to the offensive line when you have Bulaga and Sherrod, both first rounders of recent years, have re-upped the two guards recently, but are not sure 100% on center. The two tackles have some questionable health at this point, but if we draft a first round OL, and both Bulaga and Sherrod come back successfully, where do you put your new first round OL, or where do you put your returning OL? Bulaga or Sherrod are getting paid too much to sit on the bench. I think they have to be really looking at Sherrod's progress to see if he's got a good chance of full go, or they should look at shoring that side up because Newhouse is not a LT.

TT has to at least be considering #26 and Eddie Lacy and that and more or less interest after his workout on April 11th.

I think you are right about this, but he may decide to bolster the OL or the DL and get another RB later because that might be a better value at No. 26, assuming he keeps the pick.

TT has options in to name a few Johnathan Franklin, Stepfan Taylor and Montee Ball in rounds 2 and 3. If Ted Thompson doesn't come out of this draft with an option at RB he's clearly made an error.

I think he sees this as an area that needs improvement. Lacy would be a good get, but if we get him, it's only because the evaluators thought he would fit the system, be able to help protect Rodgers and add a dynamic back that we currently don't have and that the rest of the draft doesn't offer, and I'm not sure if anyone sees Lacy as that guy.

[woodbuck27]

Somebody posted that we were 16th in pass attempts - if we were 16th in pass attempts, and gave up the 2nd most sacks?? That's not a RB problem - that's an OL problem.

The Niners, Giants, and other power teams have clearly shown us where we are deficient. We may be deficient at RB, TE, and S - but our shortcomings at those position pale in comparison to how weak we are in the treches on both sides of the ball, and in our front seven in general.

We have to get tougher in the trenches, and we have to improve our front seven personnel, or we'll be right back here again next year lamenting the fact that the power teams beat us senseless again.

Absolutely your correct but let's study that proposition, fogusing on our OL.

I'm studying every move that TT makes this off season. Often TT's moves, 'no moves', come with a pretty clear attached message.

TT made zero moves to help fix our OL in FA. Son 'rester avec le statu quo' est en vogue.

In English.... he's ignored FA and our OL by being TT. Ted Thompson has ignored the one position where we absolutely have questions. The one position where the Packers certainly are on the verge of real need. What tells me that?

That OL and offense gave up a pathetic 51 QB SACKS !

That move sends a clear message. What is it Packer fans?

What are TT's options to fix our OL in the draft?

Maybe a move at Center with pick #55 or #88. This draft isn't deep at Center.

For TT to get a decent Rd. 1 value at LT or OG. It would certainly cost him a tenuous wait for a decent player to fall to #26. Noone plays 'the wait' better than TT.

What would such a wait by TT tell you?

Does TT have a more senseable option (s)?

Much more likely and better. He's going to have to trade up in Rd. 1.

For TT to trade up as I see it today. It would cost TT his 1st and 3rd Rd. picks >>> to land D.J. Fluker OT, Alabama .

A Trade up to get OG Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina. That would cost TT his 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th Rd. picks.

Any such move would show us his love for OT D.J. Fluker, Alabama or OG Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina.

Moreso ... his love for Aaron Rodgers.

It sure looks to me that we can forget getting OG Jonathan Cooper. Ted Thompson loves to draft not trade. A move at the top of this draft has to be a value move. Ted Thompson's first four picks are extremely valuable and he has to hit big with these picks. He has to look carefully at need and BPA.

If he pulls some pick of a prospect fr. Kitchamee Tech, Southbend,Idaho.

Packer fans are going to lose... their voices from screaming; their minds not finding that place in a google search.

Along with all of that we have a real need on our DL.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

I think he sees this as an area that needs improvement. Lacy would be a good get, but if we get him, it's only because the evaluators thought he would fit the system, be able to help protect Rodgers and add a dynamic back that we currently don't have and that the rest of the draft doesn't offer, and I'm not sure if anyone sees Lacy as that guy.

Hi: Carolina_Packer

I'm going to be watching for Eddie Lacy's results at his Pro day this Thursday April 11. As well 'locked onto' the first day of THE MASTERS. It's finally 'the rite of Spring' coming.

I don't want anyone at Packerrats imagining that I'm drooling; ever going to drool over Eddie Lacy. Become distraught if TT ultimately ignores him. I 'only' hope that Ted Thompson nails his picks at the top of this draft. Gets an A grade overall in this draft.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

I'm not sure how you did this Carolina_Packer...see 3 posts above this ... but I like it. I think... we're basically in agreement.

Originally Posted by woodbuck27

You improve the running game to help protect your QB. You do that by upgrading our running game with a RB that has the real potential to do so.

Yeah, Woody, I don't think they can afford status quo...but as I said in another post, this RB help, he'd better be a guy who can run and catch the ball, and most importantly pickup blitzes, and with the deception a good back can bring so as not to let the defense think it always knows when you are passing or running, soooo much the better for this offense, and it might slow the opposing defense's roll on blitzing, or pinning their ears back and coming at him. They need that to put pressure on the defense, and it hasn't really existed.

Arn't you aware of the fact that Aaron Rodgers was sacked an outrageous 51 times?

Coaches and personnel staff alike hate this, I'm sure. Did you notice what happened later in the year when Green Bay had a bit more of a run game? Rodgers wasn't sacked as many times. The opposing defense has to be forced to respect the run. It's also known that Rodgers tries to hold the ball longer to extend plays and will generally not throw the ball up for grabs and would rather take a sack than throw a pick. Wish we could build him a stone wall and give him some more clean pockets so could show off his athleticism a little less, if you know what I mean.

Doesn't that concern you? It sure as hell better start concerning Ted Thompson. I don't see many options early in this draft going OL. I certainly see options and probable upgrade at RB.

I think you make a good point. It must be difficult to think about committing more cap dollars to the offensive line when you have Bulaga and Sherrod, both first rounders of recent years, have re-upped the two guards recently, but are not sure 100% on center. The two tackles have some questionable health at this point, but if we draft a first round OL, and both Bulaga and Sherrod come back successfully, where do you put your new first round OL, or where do you put your returning OL? Bulaga or Sherrod are getting paid too much to sit on the bench. I think they have to be really looking at Sherrod's progress to see if he's got a good chance of full go, or they should look at shoring that side up because Newhouse is not a LT.

TT has to at least be considering #26 and Eddie Lacy and that and more or less interest after his workout on April 11th.

I think you are right about this, but he may decide to bolster the OL or the DL and get another RB later because that might be a better value at No. 26, assuming he keeps the pick.

TT has options in to name a few Johnathan Franklin, Stepfan Taylor and Montee Ball in rounds 2 and 3. If Ted Thompson doesn't come out of this draft with an option at RB he's clearly made an error.

[wist43]

Wood, I think the Packers think they're fine on the OL - assuming they think Sherrod will get on the field.

TT and MM prefer mobile OL. Having mobile OL comes with a tradeoff - they're not going to be glass eaters. Finesse, on both sides of the ball, is our identity. Unless MM and Capers make some adjustments, we're going to be stuck behind the power teams.

This will be a very interesting draft.

[woodbuck27]

Wood, I think the Packers think they're fine on the OL - assuming they think Sherrod will get on the field.

TT and MM prefer mobile OL. Having mobile OL comes with a tradeoff - they're not going to be glass eaters. Finesse, on both sides of the ball, is our identity. Unless MM and Capers make some adjustments, we're going to be stuck behind the power teams.

This will be a very interesting draft.

'Mobile' OL. When I think of that I think running game. Blocking downfield to create lanes for a RB.

wist43 ... as per your post above.... define 'mobile' in terms of our offensive line.

'Interesting draft' is from my view an understatement wist43.

I'm having a very tough time simply figuring out four logical round 1-2-3-4 picks in a simple 7 round Mock. I don't have the advantage that TT has of drafting prospects from 'a Junior College Program in Maine' or FR. Boogaaboo Upper State College in Somewhere, Indiana.

Rahh Rahh Rahh ! LOL

[pittstang5]

'Mobile' OL. When I think of that I think running game. Blocking downfield to create lanes for a RB.

wist43 ... as per your post above.... define 'mobile' in terms of our offensive line.

'Interesting draft' is from my view an understatement wist43.

I'm having a very tough time simply figuring out four logical round 1-2-3-4 picks in a simple 7 round Mock. I don't have the advantage that TT has of drafting prospects from 'a Junior College Program in Maine' or FR. Boogaaboo Upper State College in Somewhere, Indiana.

mobile.Rahh Rahh Rahh ! LOL

I don't mean to jump on Wist's toes here, but I think I know what he means by "mobile" o-lineman. Wist, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've noticed a trend when it comes to O-lineman that TT takes in the draft, specifically, later round guys. They usually are lighter, more athletic (305 - 315 lbs) and have lower 40 times. If they are a converted TE - I'd bet there on his "watch" list. Versatility also seems to be a common denominator. This is opposed to your road grader 340 lb plus - not going to move o-lineman.

I had Allen Barbre pegged as a TT pick the year he was drafted (probably one of the very few TT picks I have ever got right). Checked out his pre-draft stats, you'll see what i mean.

[woodbuck27]

I don't mean to jump on Wist's toes here, but I think I know what he means by "mobile" o-lineman. Wist, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've noticed a trend when it comes to O-lineman that TT takes in the draft, specifically, later round guys. They usually are lighter, more athletic (305 - 315 lbs) and have lower 40 times. If they are a converted TE - I'd bet there on his "watch" list. Versatility also seems to be a common denominator. This is opposed to your road grader 340 lb plus - not going to move o-lineman.

I had Allen Barbre pegged as a TT pick the year he was drafted (probably one of the very few TT picks I have ever got right). Checked out his pre-draft stats, you'll see what i mean.

I think you nailed that...Thanks pittstang5.

PACKERS !

[wist43]

I don't mean to jump on Wist's toes here, but I think I know what he means by "mobile" o-lineman. Wist, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've noticed a trend when it comes to O-lineman that TT takes in the draft, specifically, later round guys. They usually are lighter, more athletic (305 - 315 lbs) and have lower 40 times. If they are a converted TE - I'd bet there on his "watch" list. Versatility also seems to be a common denominator. This is opposed to your road grader 340 lb plus - not going to move o-lineman.

I had Allen Barbre pegged as a TT pick the year he was drafted (probably one of the very few TT picks I have ever got right). Checked out his pre-draft stats, you'll see what i mean.

I'd agree with that pitt.

For me though, my preference is for a power running scheme. I hate finesse football. SF showed us how it's done - they whipped our ass soundly - twice, and neither game was ever in doubt. We have to get tougher in the trenches, or it's just gonna happen again.

As for "mobile" or "finesse", they don't expect their linemen to win on strength at the point, or designate gaps to run thru. Everything is based on movement; a lot reach blocks, student body left, right, and middle, i.e. zone blocking. When M3 incorporated a couple of power running plays into the gameplan last year, we actually ran the ball a bit, but that isn't who he is. He wants to throw the ball - a lot, and call zone runnings plays. That's his nature. He gives some lip service to running the ball, but that's all it is.

How many times have we watched as 3rd and less than a yard is an obvious passing down?? Or worse than passing, M3 calls that stupid, moronic, FB dive with Kuhn. I cringed a couple of times last year when that play actually worked, b/c I knew M3 would keep calling it - hate that play!!!

[OS PA]

We should use all of our picks on left tackles and see if one of them is any good.

[packrulz]

http://lombardiave.com/2013/04/07/green-bay-packers-really-like-david-quessenberry-so-who-is-he/

[swede]

http://lombardiave.com/2013/04/07/gr...-so-who-is-he/

it was kind of behind a spamwall, but I got the gist of it.

Is he gone by round two or is he a mid-late round guy?

[woodbuck27]

We should use all of our picks on left tackles and see if one of them is any good.

Your going to have a long lost friend visit for the weekend.

You and he are 'real beer' lovers. You went out and purchased some awesome meat and the fixings for the barbeque's. It's going to be very hot and your thirst powerful.

Now the beer.

Do you make some effort to purchase your favourite premium imported beer? Maybe a couple of cases each of finer American beer like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale or Pork Slap.



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OR

A couple cases each of:



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Great LT's are as like franchise QB's... as rare as hen's teeth.

Your friend is a rare friend.

Now after that I do see your thinking. As the teams GM you might even satisfy your franchise QB. Your teams OC may be delighted.

Your certainly going to piss off your teams DC.