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"I dunno. I think Jones money signals they don't know what they have back there. I could see an ILB pick easy. Young and cheap, just like Ted likes them."
"There have been so many parallels between Red's dating life and Ted's GMing today."
"I think A.J. Klein might fill that niche."
Which niche???
As for me, Shadow, you've forgotten step four: choose a couple players you love, watch other teams take them, get really, really bummed, then watch those players fade away while Ted's fifth-round pick develops into a starter.
So...these are my guys:
Barrett Jones
Margus Hunt
That big, hulking Ohio State defensive lineman, because we need to develop B.J. Raji's replacement. And we need depth in the meantime.
That Cyprien kid, the safety.
So if Ted's got four late-first/early-to-mid-second round picks, all my dreams could come true. And if they did, those players would probably end up sucking. Just ask Bretsky."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Everything now points to TT taking a big D-lineman with the 1st pick. Raji and Pickett entering the final year of their contract, and it's a good year for big D-linemenI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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This I would really love to see. In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing Ted take a big, hulking D-tackle and a more prototypically-sized 3-4 DE in the first three rounds.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostEverything now points to TT taking a big D-lineman with the 1st pick. Raji and Pickett entering the final year of their contract, and it's a good year for big D-linemen
My thinking is that the Pickett/Raji years might be drawing to a close, and, anyway, taking a safety early isn't any guarantee that that pick could step right in and start. Safety is a position that seems to take time to learn, Harrison Smith notwithstanding.
I'd also like to see a center taken fairly early - somewhere between rounds two and four - so that player can develop. My guess is that it'd be too much to ask a rook to run the whole offensive line, but a polished center could take over after one year of Erectile Dysfunction-Smith.
A safety, and ILB, a running back - that's six positions I'd like to see addressed, Teddy."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Center - Brian Schwenke; California Pac-12 NFL.COM ** GRADE = 71.0Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI'll make my list soon...........but Shadow........nice call on Brian Schwenke.......I've been thinking for months he is a perfect fit in GB for many years to come
** GRADE's For Other Centers:
Travis Frederick - Center - 6'4" 312 - Wisconsin - GRADE 78.7
Khaled Holmes - Center - 6'3" 302 - USC - GRADE 71.0
Graham Pocic - Center - 6'7" - 310 lbs - Illinois - GRADE 62.5
Mario Benavides - Center - 6'3" - 290 lbs - Louisville - GRADE 62.0
Dalton Freeman - Center - 6'5" - 285 lbs - Clemson - GRADE 60.1
Another View At Center:
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That's my analysis.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostEverything now points to TT taking a big D-lineman with the 1st pick. Raji and Pickett entering the final year of their contract, and it's a good year for big D-linemen
When the table offers a great steak do you choose a pork chop? Now for just a little while, imagine your not living in the real world and this table was presented to you.
I just found this from NFL.Com's Big Board. It's not a Mock Draft.
In this example the Green Bay Packers get Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon if every team selected the player in order from this board.
"26. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon:
At a rangy 6-6, 248 pounds, Jordan's length and explosiveness off the edge make him a matchup nightmare for opponents and he proved every bit the must-see athlete at the combine, as expected. Unfortunately, while this Jordan might be able to "fly" in shorts like Mike, he hasn't been as productive as his athleticism would indicate. Jordan has struggled with various injuries throughout his career and this troubling tendency again arose at the combine where he announced that he would have to undergo surgery prior to the draft to repair a torn labrum. "
a) Would you like that gift? I'd be estatic.
The good fortune continues... What has the magic genie left to offer you here!?
Take a look at what's available at positions #55 Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern and #56 Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina.
b) Which of those two fellas would you choose, if you had to make that choice?
GO PACKERS !** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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GB's picks are:
Round 1, 26th (overall)
Round 2, 55th
Round 3, 88th
Round 4, 122nd
Round 5, 159th
Round 5, 167th (comp.)
Round 6, 193rd
Round 7, 232nd
If TT doesn't trade up or down (a 'big if' IMO) I could see the draft falling like this:
R1 - Jesse Williams DT
R2 - Robert Woods, Q.Patton, or M.Wheaton WR
R3 - Gavin Escobar TE
R4 - Chase Thomas OLB
R5 - Tony Jefferson S
R5 - Kwame Geathers DE
R6 - Jeff Baca OL (listed as G, but has played some C & T)
R7 - Kyle Juszczyk FB
*** Not exactly my wish list, and something tells me there could be a CB drafted in there somewhere, but I think this will be a balanced draft in terms of offense/defense.
(Anyone think TT will draft offense-heavy like 2011 or defense-heavy like 2012?)
Wish list would be for DT, DE, OG/C (ideally someone who can play both and challenge/backup EDS), OLB to push Perry, WR to develop behind the current group, and an athletic TE to replace Finley.
They also need improvement at RB and S, and might need depth at CB depending on what happens with Tramon and Sam Shields over the next 12 months. Would TT cut Tramon to make cap room to sign Raji?
How players coming off IR (Quarless, Bishop, Sherrod, Smith, Richardson, Saine) respond will really help shape the gameday roster.
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Dion Jordan at #26? Yeah, I'd take that if I were TT. He's big, can rush the passer and play some coverage. We don't know if CM3 or Perry can hold up for 16+ games so having another quality OLB (with apologies to Moses and whoever else we have, not on the Zombo bandwagon) for Kevin Greene would be a plus.a) Would you like that gift? I'd be estatic.
The good fortune continues... What has the magic genie left to offer you here!?
Take a look at what's available at positions #55 Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern and #56 Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina.
I'd take Sylvester Williams, just barely though since I don't know much about either. (Bigger conference bias, plus I think I saw a mock draft that had him in Round 1.)b) Which of those two fellas would you choose, if you had to make that choice?
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I think a nose tackle, a defensive end, a linebacker (inside? outside?), a center, a safety, and a running back would all be important position picks for me."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Dion Jordan: Remember ... we're not in the real world.Originally posted by run pMc View PostDion Jordan at #26? Yeah, I'd take that if I were TT. He's big, can rush the passer and play some coverage. We don't know if CM3 or Perry can hold up for 16+ games so having another quality OLB (with apologies to Moses and whoever else we have, not on the Zombo bandwagon) for Kevin Greene would be a plus.
I'd take Sylvester Williams, just barely though since I don't know much about either. (Bigger conference bias, plus I think I saw a mock draft that had him in Round 1.)
What a player!
Sylverter Williams (better speed) VS Brandon Williams (Superior Strength - He's very strong; see Star Lotulelei). I believe it comes down to the proper fit RE: scheme and future plans.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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It's a decent bet to believe Dion Jordan goes TOP FIVE.Originally posted by smuggler View PostIf Dion Jordan fell 20 spots into our laps, yes we'd take him. He won't plunge like that. He'll be a top-10 guy, IMO.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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If TT doesn't trade up or down (a 'big if' IMO) I could see the draft falling like this:Originally posted by run pMc View PostGB's picks are:
Round 1, 26th (overall)
Round 2, 55th
Round 3, 88th
Round 4, 122nd
Round 5, 159th
Round 5, 167th (comp.)
Round 6, 193rd
Round 7, 232nd
If TT doesn't trade up or down (a 'big if' IMO) I could see the draft falling like this:
R1 - Jesse Williams DT
R2 - Robert Woods, Q.Patton, or M.Wheaton WR
R3 - Gavin Escobar TE
R4 - Chase Thomas OLB
R5 - Tony Jefferson S
R5 - Kwame Geathers DE
R6 - Jeff Baca OL (listed as G, but has played some C & T)
R7 - Kyle Juszczyk FB
*** Not exactly my wish list, and something tells me there could be a CB drafted in there somewhere, but I think this will be a balanced draft in terms of offense/defense.
(Anyone think TT will draft offense-heavy like 2011 or defense-heavy like 2012?)
Wish list would be for DT, DE, OG/C (ideally someone who can play both and challenge/backup EDS), OLB to push Perry, WR to develop behind the current group, and an athletic TE to replace Finley.
They also need improvement at RB and S, and might need depth at CB depending on what happens with Tramon and Sam Shields over the next 12 months. Would TT cut Tramon to make cap room to sign Raji?
How players coming off IR (Quarless, Bishop, Sherrod, Smith, Richardson, Saine) respond will really help shape the gameday roster.
R1 - Jesse Williams DT
R2 - Robert Woods, Q.Patton, or M.Wheaton WR
R3 - Gavin Escobar TE
R4 - Chase Thomas OLB
R5 - Tony Jefferson S
R5 - Kwame Geathers DE
R6 - Jeff Baca OL (listed as G, but has played some C & T)
R7 - Kyle Juszczyk FB
Finally someone has stepped up with a real effort at a pick by pick sample draft. I believe this is the first I've seen here this off season. CONGRATULATIONS.
Now I'll take a look at your effort/thinking.
GO PACK GO !** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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