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i was just reading about him on the can an hour ago or soOriginally posted by wist43 View Post
I really like Brandon Williams though - thought he might be available in the 3rd round, but I've seen him going in the 2nd in some mocks. We need to come away with at least one 2-gap DL in this draft. Brandon Williams and Hankins are the best available I think.
sounds intriguing, maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder
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If TT stands pat in this draft he must not hesitate if Brandon Williams is available at #55.Originally posted by wist43 View PostI agree with red about the kid from Georgia - I don't want him either.
I really like Brandon Williams though - thought he might be available in the 3rd round, but I've seen him going in the 2nd in some mocks. We need to come away with at least one 2-gap DL in this draft. Brandon Williams and Hankins are the best available I think.
I don't trust Jesse Williams b/c of his build. He's soooo top heavy and thin legged. Good player, but will he stay healthy on the next level??
As it seems more and more likely. TT has to be scrambling every day to trade out of #26 to get two 2nd and 3rd round picks.
Even if that comes to fruition. TT should draft The strong man (DT Brandon Williams) at #55.
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This draft offers many intrigues. To me is more interesting then some in the recent past. This draft is what might be deemed 'a somewhat dysfunctional class'.Originally posted by The Shadow View PostThis is a lot like wondering what will be under the Christmas tree.
Let the beat go on.
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I just see Jones as having a limited ceiling on the next level.Originally posted by pbmax View PostBrian Carriveau @BrianCarriveau 52m
New on CheeseheadTV: Datone Jones an Enigma as 3-4 Defensive Line Prospect http://bit.ly/11BbIyF #Packers
I recommend the article. Its a pretty good read on the kid and covers the positives and pitfalls of him in the Packer defense.
He tries to make a comparison to Watt, but I don't buy that at all. Watt is a beast b/c he has size, quickness, and short area burst and power. Jones ran a faster 40, but Watt was quite a bit quicker in the agility drills - and it shows up on game tape.
There will just be too many good players available at 26 to be taking another projection. I like Margus Hunt as a prospect better than Jones, but I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on him at 26.
I'd like to trade down and consider Hankins or Sylvester Williams a few picks back; or, BPA and Brandon Williams with the 55th pick.
This is such a wide open draft, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.wist
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Originally posted by wist43 View PostI just see Jones as having a limited ceiling on the next level.
He tries to make a comparison to Watt, but I don't buy that at all. Watt is a beast b/c he has size, quickness, and short area burst and power. Jones ran a faster 40, but Watt was quite a bit quicker in the agility drills - and it shows up on game tape.
There will just be too many good players available at 26 to be taking another projection. I like Margus Hunt as a prospect better than Jones, but I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on him at 26.
I'd like to trade down and consider Hankins or Sylvester Williams a few picks back; or, BPA and Brandon Williams with the 55th pick.
This is such a wide open draft, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
Fr. the above LINK:
"In terms of pure athletic ability, Watt trumped Jones when it came to the measured drills at the Combine. Jones ran a faster 40-yard dash (4.80 vs. 4.84) but Watt had more bench press reps (34 vs. 29), a higher vertical jump (37 inches vs. 31.5) and horizonal jump (120 inches vs. 112), a faster three-cone drill (6.88 seconds vs. 7.32) and short shuttle (4.21 seconds vs. 4.32).
Another player with similar size to Jones is former Packers and current Chargers defensive lineman Jarius Wynn who’s 6-3 and 285 lbs. For three years in Green Bay, Wynn could never carve out much more than a part-time role as a situational pass rusher. Even then, his contributions were modest at best."
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Is Datone Jones .... JJ Watt or Jarius Wynn? More Wynn than Watt?
I think he's somewhere in between.
but it's here:
I call Datone Jones... 'Hollywood ' ... for a reason.
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Thanks for that. At least I know the kid is a good kid, but I really think he is Jarius Wynn and not JJ Watt.Originally posted by pbmax View PostBrian Carriveau @BrianCarriveau 52m
New on CheeseheadTV: Datone Jones an Enigma as 3-4 Defensive Line Prospect http://bit.ly/11BbIyF #Packers
I recommend the article. Its a pretty good read on the kid and covers the positives and pitfalls of him in the Packer defense.
Just because your college coach moves you around the D line you do not necessarily earn the title "versatile." The coach is versatile, maybe, but not that player.
I'd be shocked if he is our guy at #26.
I might take him in the 2nd.
And how about Watt's combine numbers! Hoowhee. A 37" vertical? Nuts![QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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The only question there is about Watt is how the heck did he not merit a D1 scholarship out of High School?Originally posted by swede View PostThanks for that. At least I know the kid is a good kid, but I really think he is Jarius Wynn and not JJ Watt.
Just because your college coach moves you around the D line you do not necessarily earn the title "versatile." The coach is versatile, maybe, but not that player.
I'd be shocked if he is our guy at #26.
I might take him in the 2nd.
And how about Watt's combine numbers! Hoowhee. A 37" vertical? Nuts!Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Consensus begins to congeal about the 26th Draft Pick:
[Greg Cosell's mock draft: Picks 1-16 | Picks 17-32] Here’s Part One of my mock draft: picks 1-16. A little explanation is in order before I begin. I chose players based on my film study and evaluations, and then factored in … Continue reading →
26. Green Bay Packers: My pick is defensive lineman Datone Jones of UCLA. In some ways, Jones reminded me of Richard Seymour when Seymour came out of Georgia in 2001. Seymour was a bigger man at 315 pounds, which of course enhanced his value significantly; it was one of the reasons he was the sixth pick in the draft. Jones is 280 pounds but his overall skill set is somewhat similar. I would describe Jones as a chameleon. By that I mean he played both bigger and smaller than his 280 pounds. He showed outstanding short area quickness with both explosion and power. He was very effective as a gap penetrator. He was active and disruptive, and strong and powerful. He has great position and scheme versatility, with the attributes to play 3-4 DE, 4-3 DE and 4-3 DT. My sense is he’d be most effective in a one-gap scheme. One final point: I believe he will develop into a better pass rusher in the NFL than he was in college.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Packers need to stay away from tweeners. Draft guys that size wise are ready for a certain position.Originally posted by pbmax View PostConsensus begins to congeal about the 26th Draft Pick:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...9912--nfl.html
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There. You see buddy. I know that I had formed a positive opinion of you before you went all negative attention on us.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostPackers need to stay away from tweeners. Draft guys that size wise are ready for a certain position.
That is an excellent observation regarding avoiding players whose sizes are not prototypical. Of course, you get guys like Elmer Dumerville and that shoots THAT theory down as being infallible, but mostly I think teams are smart to draft the right frame for the job--ESPECIALLY in the early rounds.
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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No negative attention -- my fan club mandates that the posters with large word counts require scrutinyOriginally posted by swede View PostThere. You see buddy. I know that I had formed a positive opinion of you before you went all negative attention on us.
That is an excellent observation regarding avoiding players whose sizes are not prototypical. Of course, you get guys like Elmer Dumerville and that shoots THAT theory down as being infallible, but mostly I think teams are smart to draft the right frame for the job--ESPECIALLY in the early rounds.

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ED is undersized not a tweener -- there is a difference.Originally posted by swede View PostThere. You see buddy. I know that I had formed a positive opinion of you before you went all negative attention on us.
That is an excellent observation regarding avoiding players whose sizes are not prototypical. Of course, you get guys like Elmer Dumerville and that shoots THAT theory down as being infallible, but mostly I think teams are smart to draft the right frame for the job--ESPECIALLY in the early rounds.

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