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It makes sense before the draft if our player grading looks like it has plateaus in the area around our pick and in areas of the picks the 49ers might be able to offer.
Especially if one of the picks the 49ers offer shares the plateau with our pick (ie, 31 overall).
But then you'd be banking on the idea that the draft will fall the way you think it will. Let's say the Niners think there are 26 players worthy of a first round pick. So they trade up with the Pack and the Pack gets an extra fourth. Then, during the draft, GM's start picking players SF didn't have in their first 26. If five GM's pick guys SF doesn't have rated in the top 26, then they coulda kept their slot and got one of their 26. I don't see the advantage of trading up beforehand - unless SF thinks it's cheaper to do that than wait.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
And why would you be discussing a trade up before anyone's been drafted? That seems weird.
Actually, I have read several times that the ground work often is laid in advance for trades. First, to determine if a team is even interested in the possibility of trading out of their spot, then to discuss various scenarios, would TT consider trading his 1 for their 1 plus what? Or maybe TT throws in a lower pick to get their 1+2. All subject to how things actually fall, of course.
This trade won't happen before draft day. If it did, for some reason, they are probably targeting someone and if they needed to on draft day, they have ammo to move up again from 26 to get their guy.
Most of these are exploratory. Thompson has talked previously about knowing where they might be able to go prior to their pick. But everything is conditional. Most of these trades that do not include players get executed on draft day and happen after a team either loses the last player they wanted at a certain pick, have way too many choices of similar value or find a trading partner desperate to jump in to get the last of a run.
So its entirely conceivable the 49ers have plans to trade into BOTH the Packers and Cowboys slots if the draft falls a certain way.
In fact, the only reason to announce an actual trade of picks is if you are certain nothing could disrupt your plans.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Makes sense. Exploring some options for draft day.
So that's good too in the sense that the word is out that the Packers' pick is possibly for sale, so if some poor sap of a GM sitting near the top of round two feels the need to have EJ Manuel and is scared he'll be gone soon, then Ted could perhaps fleece 'em for their second and their third.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
Actually, I have read several times that the ground work often is laid in advance for trades. First, to determine if a team is even interested in the possibility of trading out of their spot, then to discuss various scenarios, would TT consider trading his 1 for their 1 plus what? Or maybe TT throws in a lower pick to get their 1+2. All subject to how things actually fall, of course.
In his last interview TT said that after the board was set you start calling the other teams to see if they "still have your number."
I think that is folksy TT-speak for doing exactly as you suggest, Patler. The willing partners are sought and general terms worked out in advance. Those deals come together or fall apart as the draft gets underway and names come off the boards.
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
In an interview with Charley Casserly, ex GM, he noted the week before the draft is where most of the groundwork is laid for potential trade ups and downs. GM's contact each other....seeing if they would be interested, and what it might take.
On short notice...draft day.....he noted teams tend to contact the GM's they know and have down past business with if they are making an impromptu move. He mentioned TT as doing past deals with Hoody, and noted he has familiarity wth the Raiders and Seattle's GM
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
In an interview with Charley Casserly, ex GM, he noted the week before the draft is where most of the groundwork is laid for potential trade ups and downs. GM's contact each other....seeing if they would be interested, and what it might take.
On short notice...draft day.....he noted teams tend to contact the GM's they know and have down past business with if they are making an impromptu move. He mentioned TT as doing past deals with Hoody, and noted he has familiarity wth the Raiders and Seattle's GM
Doubt you would see a trade between Packers and Seattle. Seattle doesn't have a 1st round pick, and I doubt TT would want to trade down and help them get a player they really want since they are NFC rivals. The rest of the draft the Packers and Seattle pick back to back. He might trade with McKenzie although Raiders are probably looking to pick up picks, so it would only be if TT is looking to trade up. A trade with Hoody is always a possibility.
Trades with Hoody have netted Greg Jennings in 2006, Clay Matthews in 2009, and Casey Hayward in 2012, so bring it on!
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
In an interview with Charley Casserly, ex GM, he noted the week before the draft is where most of the groundwork is laid for potential trade ups and downs. GM's contact each other....seeing if they would be interested, and what it might take.
On short notice...draft day.....he noted teams tend to contact the GM's they know and have down past business with if they are making an impromptu move. He mentioned TT as doing past deals with Hoody, and noted he has familiarity wth the Raiders and Seattle's GM
He also is friends with San Fran's guy and now the Chiefs GM. Actually, I know he worked with and was friendly with the previous 49er GM, but I just read this year he also knew his replacement.
I think he traded with Hoody 12 times in his move up the board draft.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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