$25 million man?

[woodbuck27]

So let me get this straight, I'll ask question by question so I understand your answers.

Are you not complaing that TT spent to much on ARod?

Are you not complaing about using so much of the cap on CMIII and ARod?

If we use the money for ARod and CMIII don't we have to let other guys go?

Maybe I am mistaken when I read your posts because you have so many different articles inbedded in them.

Who do you imagine you are? The FBI or CIA?

I'll tell you who you appear to me. So far up your own ass in homerism it's a waste of my time to play with you.

Maybe that's not fair!? Maybe that's completely wrong?

Look at your questions in that last post. Not one of those questions is relevant to my concerns.

Has TT spent any more money (yet) on Aaron Rodgers and/or Clay Matthews III? I'm not aware that he did so how could I complain? That more than less answers your other questions ThunderDan.

If you have more than the inside track on all things 'HOMER and a Packer fan'? Please share that with me.

I'm not interested in silly immature mind/word games. In your obvious attempts; 'your fix' to discredit my efforts to post a simple wake up call to all Packer fans that read this forum.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

This is your first post in this thread. Am I confused or are you confused?

I'm going to ignore that with this exception.

I'm positive I'm NOT confused.

[woodbuck27]

Holy snappers !



I don't want this to bring 'the dogs out'.

[Fritz]

Who do you imagine you are? The FBI or CIA?

I'll tell you who you appear to me. So far up your own ass in homerism it's a waste of my time to play with you.

Maybe that's not fair!? Maybe that's completely wrong?

Look at your questions in that last post. Not one of those questions is relevant to my concerns.

Has TT spent any more money (yet) on Aaron Rodgers and/or Clay Matthews III? I'm not aware that he did so how could I complain? That more than less answers your other questions ThunderdDan.

If you have more than the inside track on all things 'HOMER and a Packer fan'? Please share that with me.

I'm not interested in silly immature mind/word games. In your obvious attempts; 'your fix' to discredit my efforts to post a simple wake up call to all Packer fans that read this forum.

GO PACK GO !

Are you off your meds again?

[denverYooper]

Cervantes would be proud.

[smuggler]

I'll give you one thing, woody -- you sure put a lot of time and effort into your posts.

[woodbuck27]

Are you off your meds again?

Sometimes 'homerism' gets me like a 'bite in the arse' attitude. Homerism often excludes insight into intelligence. LOL

Sometimes ' homerism ' changes me from this:



To this:




With Tylenol. I took two before bed last night...never this:




Sometimes there's some crap that surfaces and it gets personal.

I wasn't raised to take any crap. I'm almost pure Canadian - Irish. I've learned this in life.

If anyone slings enough shit on a brick wall. Some of it will stick if you neglect to wash it off. I seldom bust ass or come down on someone; snorting like a fricken bull. I was gentle in that exchange.

Here's the real TRUTH. This isn't life and death stuff. The central parties that we concern ourselves with in this discussion will come out either looking good; stinking too high heaven or somewhere in between.

We won't all agree as concerns the result. I'm not presently aware there has been one. Until I do it's as I've expressed earlier in this thread.

A rumor... nothing else.

GO PACK GO!

[woodbuck27]

I'll give you one thing, woody -- you sure put a lot of time and effort into your posts.

smuggler ... you noticed.

THANKS

I'm dedicated to Packerrats. I really care. I don't believe I've ever posted on another Packer forum since Mad kicked Packerrats up for us to enjoy.

I've been a Green Bay Packer fan for five and a half decades. That means going through all that was the 1970's and 80's. Those were really hard years to hold onto one team. I don't want to see one member on this forum suffer all that again.

GO PACK GO !

[smuggler]

It's all good, as long as you never get like this:



JUST. LIKE. THIIIIIS.

[Upnorth]

Sorry to come to the party with out anything to add but has his contact even been signed?

[Guiness]

Sorry to come to the party with out anything to add but has his contact even been signed?

No, it hasn't, but it sure looks to be unavoidable.

With the money paid to Flacco and Romo, you really can't expect Rodgers to sign for any less. Add in Manning and Brees, and possibly Brady (I never did figure out what he got) and you've got 5 QBs making north of $20million/year. He's getting that, no question.

I said it somewhere else on this board, I think the next few years of the NFL are going to be interesting if the cap stays flat. Which teams are going to be consistently good? Those with a franchise, highly paid QB, one other star and some journeymen surrounding them, or teams with a middle of the road QB and many more above average players at the skill positions - made affordable because they have $10-15million more of cap space to play spend. Or door #3, teams with a steller rookie QB on his first contract?

A lot of players were asked to take pay cuts this year, and were threatened with being cut if they did not - Hawk took his, Dumervil didn't. That playing field needs to be leveled. Want to see something interesting? If a team wants to cut a player's salary, that player should be given x hours to shop himself around...and see if there are any takers at a salary above what he's being offered! The teams are 'negotiating', but the players aren't allowed to shop their services around. Unfair.

[woodbuck27]

No, it hasn't, but it sure looks to be unavoidable.

With the money paid to Flacco and Romo, you really can't expect Rodgers to sign for any less. Add in Manning and Brees, and possibly Brady (I never did figure out what he got) and you've got 5 QBs making north of $20million/year. He's getting that, no question.

I said it somewhere else on this board, I think the next few years of the NFL are going to be interesting if the cap stays flat. Which teams are going to be consistently good? Those with a franchise, highly paid QB, one other star and some journeymen surrounding them, or teams with a middle of the road QB and many more above average players at the skill positions - made affordable because they have $10-15million more of cap space to play spend. Or door #3, teams with a steller rookie QB on his first contract?

A lot of players were asked to take pay cuts this year, and were threatened with being cut if they did not - Hawk took his, Dumervil didn't. That playing field needs to be leveled. Want to see something interesting? If a team wants to cut a player's salary, that player should be given x hours to shop himself around...and see if there are any takers at a salary above what he's being offered! The teams are 'negotiating', but the players aren't allowed to shop their services around. Unfair.

Nice point Guiness. 'Unfair' it seems to me; might be the catch word of the near future in the NFL. Along with other more unflattering words.

I know one thing I'd certainly now have in place.

More emphasis on a solid backup QB. What have we got there?

The culture of the NFL is seeing a sudden change in terms of the cost of an elite QB to the teams CAP. I was watching films on MLB last night and the record contract signing of players like Barry Bonds; when he went over from the Pittsburg Pirates to the San Francisco GIANTS.

Comparing that contract with what Flacco, and now Romo signed. Barry Bonds playing a 162 game schedule in MLB and got half what Flacco and Romo were handed.

This payout to NFL QB's is simply 'sick money'. Some restraints have to be put in place. Owners or NFL GM's have certainly gone Bozzo on this one. Someone has to take a stand for the overall good of the game. Act in accordance with what fairness really is, in terms of 'the team'.

If I was the GM of the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers agent tried to handcuff my CAP, with the suggestion of $25 million$ per season for his client. He'd better enter my office, armed with a shield. I'd simply do the smart thing and tell him to get back to his egomaniacle client. Rethink his demands. Otherwise, go piss up on the nearest pole. That face of the franchise would be receiving a reality check from me. No one or two players are bigger than the team as a whole.

I consider this rumor of Aaron Rodgers and $25 Million$ per year as simply ridiculous. Accept that as a forgone conclusion. I treat it as propaganda.

I'd be fired before I would ever allow one man on my team to hog so much of the CAP. It's the general principle of fair play, that we're talking about here; not what Aaron Rodgers deserves or not, based on his level of play Vs any other NFL QB.

Someone has to simply use their brains. Someone simply has to have some balls. Balls to do the right thing.

I pray that man is Ted Thompson.

There's no man or woman on this board that can convince me that I'm wrong in my position and this silly to plain stupid rumor.

GO PACK GO!

[King Friday]

The teams are 'negotiating', but the players aren't allowed to shop their services around. Unfair.

The player can shop himself around as long as he wants to...all he has to do is turn down the "reduction" his team is offering and force them to cut him. Dumervil DID accept the pay cut...it was a paperwork snafu by his agent that caused him to be cut. This isn't some kind of new thing...it has happened for years. It will happen more and more when teams load up on overpriced FAs during the first week of free agency, because after a year or two those teams will be forced to realize that there actually WAS a reason why the player wasn't wanted by someone else and that they paid WAY TOO MUCH for them.

[Pugger]

It was so deep in his post that if that was the connection I didn't get it.

I think even with a lot of change in the front office Mark Murphy and Ted Thompson make a pretty good pair. And with all the other team's poaching our up-and-coming execs I would guess a lot of the bright talent would want to be groomed in GB to get jobs elsewhere.

When I was a golf pro I took an assistant's job at PGA West simply because with that on my resume I would at least have a door opened for me anywhere else I wanted to go.

You were a golf pro? Cool.

[Upnorth]

Didnt the nfl sign a to contract with a big jump in price in 2014? The cap won't stay flat with a big increase in tv revenue