$25 million man?

[MadScientist]

Approx. 3.8 % of the roster will get 31% of the salary CAP... 'ballpark'.

Now ... there's a definition of pressure.

It's definitely a risk. Atlanta just had to release their starting right tackle to free up some cap space to sign Ryan. TT has been very smart with the cap, but the numbers are painting him into a corner now.

[Guiness]

It's definitely a risk. Atlanta just had to release their starting right tackle to free up some cap space to sign Ryan. TT has been very smart with the cap, but the numbers are painting him into a corner now.

Colour me confused. If the RT was playing well, and his contract wasn't ridiculous, this is nothing but counter-productive to building a solid team.

As I've mentioned in other posts, I think this is just crazy.

[MadScientist]

Colour me confused. If the RT was playing well, and his contract wasn't ridiculous, this is nothing but counter-productive to building a solid team.

As I've mentioned in other posts, I think this is just crazy.

The RT was rated as the 5th best RT, but he is 32 years old and one article suggested he was declining. I couldn't find any injury info about him. He was set to make 4.5M this year.

[pbmax]

Ryan's deal supposedly is making progress. No leak on possible numbers that I have seen. Yet.

[gbgary]

without reading through all the posts (lazy ass) i'll ask this: i'm no capologist, and tell me if i'm wrong, but i'm thinking the bigger the singing bonus (guaranteed money) the less the cap hit will be. no? if so the Packers should write AR a huge check.

[Smeefers]

without reading through all the posts (lazy ass) i'll ask this: i'm no capologist, and tell me if i'm wrong, but i'm thinking the bigger the singing bonus (guaranteed money) the less the cap hit will be. no? if so the Packers should write AR a huge check.

The signing bonus is money that is given right away, but is spread equally over up to 4 years (maybe five). The biggest cap hit is the guaranteed money. Then there's two types of bonus'. There's bonus' that are likely to be made (making the pro bowl, 4000 yards, 20+ touchdowns, etc) and there's bonus' unlikely (super bowl mvp, 5000+ yards, 40+ touchdowns, etc). The likely bonus is counted against the cap. The unlikely isn't counted.

The difference Rodgers and the team have right now is in guaranteed money. The packers offered a total contract of around 21.5 a year, Rodgers wants 23.5 so that it would be harder for teams to leapfrog his contract number and he wouldn't be #1 any more. Rodgers has already stated that he's not going to hold out. There's a ton of time left on his contract, it's no rush. It's not like Rodgers is actively negotiating, that's what his agent is for. Every once in a while the agent comes to Aaron with a number and either says "take it" or "we can get more" and they go on from there. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get signed until the middle of the season.

The only thing that would put a rush on it is if Aaron wanted to get paid now, if he was anxious to get the big check, he'd have to get the deal done before the season started. If that was the case, he would have to hold out in order to force the teams hand. Theoretically, the team has all of this season and all of next season to get a deal done.

[pbmax]

The bigger the signing bonus, the more you are counting on the cap to increase in subsequent years. And no less an authority than Bob Kraft has said the CBA, even after TV money kicks in for 2014 is going to rise slower than before. So expectations of increases like we saw twice in the 2000's are going to prove optimistic.

That is not to say you couldn't do it. But it makes a renegotiation more likely.

[woodbuck27]

The signing bonus is money that is given right away, but is spread equally over up to 4 years (maybe five). The biggest cap hit is the guaranteed money. Then there's two types of bonus'. There's bonus' that are likely to be made (making the pro bowl, 4000 yards, 20+ touchdowns, etc) and there's bonus' unlikely (super bowl mvp, 5000+ yards, 40+ touchdowns, etc). The likely bonus is counted against the cap. The unlikely isn't counted.

The difference Rodgers and the team have right now is in guaranteed money. The packers offered a total contract of around 21.5 a year, Rodgers wants 23.5 so that it would be harder for teams to leapfrog his contract number and he wouldn't be #1 any more. Rodgers has already stated that he's not going to hold out. There's a ton of time left on his contract, it's no rush. It's not like Rodgers is actively negotiating, that's what his agent is for. Every once in a while the agent comes to Aaron with a number and either says "take it" or "we can get more" and they go on from there. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get signed until the middle of the season.

The only thing that would put a rush on it is if Aaron wanted to get paid now, if he was anxious to get the big check, he'd have to get the deal done before the season started. If that was the case, he would have to hold out in order to force the teams hand. Theoretically, the team has all of this season and all of next season to get a deal done.

Good post.

I cannot imagine that Aaron Rodgers is in any financial bind. Obviously there is no rush and for Aaron Rodgers best interests there, shouldn't be.

He and his agent ( David Dunn) should now be watching to see what Matt Ryan gets from the Falcons. Maybe? what Jay Cutler might pry out of da Bears.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

The bigger the signing bonus, the more you are counting on the cap to increase in subsequent years. And no less an authority than Bob Kraft has said the CBA, even after TV money kicks in for 2014 is going to rise slower than before. So expectations of increases like we saw twice in the 2000's are going to prove optimistic.

That is not to say you couldn't do it. But it makes a renegotiation more likely.

That is the 'real focus' of this new contract talk RE: Aaron Rodgers. It's overall impact on our CAP.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/03/aaron-rodgers-excited-about-his-offense-mum-about-his-contract/

Aaron Rodgers excited about his offense, mum about his contract

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 3, 2013, 10:40 AM EDT


GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

Good post.

I cannot imagine that Aaron Rodgers is in any financial bind. Obviously there is no rush and for Aaron Rodgers best interests there, shouldn't be.

He and his agent ( David Dunn) should now be watching to see what Matt Ryan gets from the Falcons. Maybe? what Jay Cutler might pry out of da Bears.

PACKERS !

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/04/thomas-dimitroff-somethings-around-the-corner-with-matt-ryan/

Thomas Dimitroff: Something’s “around the corner” with Matt Ryan’s contract

Posted by Josh Alper on April 4, 2013, 10:41 AM EDT

[QBME]

Well, the latest report out of Green Bay, from inside the Packers organization, is that Aaron Rodgers is going to get a billion dollars:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9163182/aj-hawk-green-bay-packers-says-quarterback-aaron-rodgers-worth-every-penny

Unless this contract is carefully structured, it will put the Pack in cap hell for quite some time. There is no mention of what part of the billion dollars will be bonus money or guaranteed.

[Fritz]

As a long-time hater of the Detroit Lions, one of the things I'm most excited about regarding this contract is that once Rodgers is signed to it, the next move out of Detroit will probably be for Matthew Stafford's agent to try to top it. And the Lions, being the Lions, might just go for it. They're already renegotiating contracts to be able to fit Reggie Bush et al under the cap, and while they seem to have about six mill under now, in future years they are going to owe a whole lot of dough to a number of players who are probably not going to be worth that kind of cash.

[Upnorth]

If the contract was way out of line with everything else for a starting QB in this league then I could understand all the gnashing of teeth but it is about 10% above the current market. 10% for arguably the best is a good investment. 2 years from now it might look cheap. If we were the only team doing this it would be different but...

[woodbuck27]

If the contract was way out of line with everything else for a starting QB in this league then I could understand all the gnashing of teeth but it is about 10% above the current market. 10% for arguably the best is a good investment. 2 years from now it might look cheap. If we were the only team doing this it would be different but...

Yes but 10% of $20 million$ is $2 million$ not $5 million$ to a conservative (compared with any newer rumor) yet still, very scary speculative $25 million$.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers GM. He gets right now...today ! An offer of $20.5 million$ per year and that's the biscuit.

If his agent asks for more than $20.5 million$. He's talking to the back of my hand, as I flick him away.

PACKERS !