Packers Still Too Soft

[pbmax]

So they picked a guy who has a foot being held together with screws.

Don't you love that in one hand he handed in the softsmallnotinjured article and in the other hand he was picking Jones is his mock?

[rbaloha1]

Don't you love that in one hand he handed in the softsmallnotinjured article and in the other hand he was picking Jones is his mock?

does this automatically make him injury prone?

[Patler]

Don't you love that in one hand he handed in the softsmallnotinjured article and in the other hand he was picking Jones is his mock?

Covers all his bases, doesn't he?

[rbaloha1]

Covers all his bases, doesn't he?

You guys should give up -- the packers made an effort to draft to 2 tough guys with the first 2 picks. MM needs to change the team identity and hope the trend continues with day 3. get me some jesse williams.

[Bretsky]

It's McGinn's job to sell papers; he is an incredibly interesting writer but he used his evidence selectively to patch points together so they are interesting. I read nearly all of his stuff....like him as a writer as he can be thought provoking.....but rarely consider what he says to be remotedly the Bible because I understand it's his job to be interest and sell papers and that can come at the cost of complete reliability

[wist43]

Don't you love that in one hand he handed in the softsmallnotinjured article and in the other hand he was picking Jones is his mock?

Well, I picked Jones on the board here as well - even though I didn't want him. I didn't pick him b/c I liked him, I picked him b/c I thought TT would like him. I'm sure that's what McGinn was doing.

Still, I've warmed up to Jones - I can, with good conscience, neatly place him in the catagory of good players who will underperform b/c of how Dom Capers uses him - I am already not holding Jones accountable for anything negative about his play.

The good news is - Capers average time to firing is about 5 years isn't it?? Doesn't he usually get canned by every one of his employers at about the 5 year mark??

[pbmax]

Yes but wist we know from previous posts you really didn't like the choice but felt it was an obvious one for Thompson.

McGinn reported of a new, Thompson and McCarthy agreed upon organizational push for bigger, tougher and less injured and then predicted Jones as the choice of that organization. You can't square that circle of facts. Its obvious McGinn's original report was much too forceful and there still existed circumstances where an injury history or the presence of bigger players would not prevent the drafting of talent.

The Lacy pick is even more proof the injury thing in the article was non-sense.

[Bretsky]

Green Bay, IMO, passed on the ability to pick out 2 DL's that stood above the rest of what is out there today when they traded down with Miami. Perhaps TT doesn't think the DL is a big area of need anymore.....just saying.........I thought TT was trading down to Miami's first 4th rounder....was a bit suprirsed that he basically jumped down a half of a round. IF he's looking more OL or S it makes sense.........but as for the two DL rated quite high be everybody with round 2-3 grades BYE BYE

[rbaloha1]

Yes but wist we know from previous posts you really didn't like the choice but felt it was an obvious one for Thompson.

McGinn reported of a new, Thompson and McCarthy agreed upon organizational push for bigger, tougher and less injured and then predicted Jones as the choice of that organization. You can't square that circle of facts. Its obvious McGinn's original report was much too forceful and there still existed circumstances where an injury history or the presence of bigger players would not prevent the drafting of talent.

The Lacy pick is even more proof the injury thing in the article was non-sense.

Every draft pick has an injury history.

Lacy stuff is minor.

What about if the packers drafted ball -- would you bring up this article?

Your nit picking and failure to e-mail mcginn with further shows childish tantrums that are insignificant.

[rbaloha1]

Green Bay, IMO, passed on the ability to pick out 2 DL's that stood above the rest of what is out there today when they traded down with Miami. Perhaps TT doesn't think the DL is a big area of need anymore.....just saying.........I thought TT was trading down to Miami's first 4th rounder....was a bit suprirsed that he basically jumped down a half of a round. IF he's looking more OL or S it makes sense.........but as for the two DL rated quite high be everybody with round 2-3 grades BYE BYE

those guys were overrated as well as others like Barkley, Lacy, Teo, etc.

my guess is TT wanted hunt bit when taken traded down.

as per the ravens gm this is an unusual year for quality safeties and a starter can be found at every round.

my pics are Jesse Williams and Philip Thomas -- use whatever pics required to get these 2 tough guys.

[rbaloha1]

It's McGinn's job to sell papers; he is an incredibly interesting writer but he used his evidence selectively to patch points together so they are interesting. I read nearly all of his stuff....like him as a writer as he can be thought provoking.....but rarely consider what he says to be remotedly the Bible because I understand it's his job to be interest and sell papers and that can come at the cost of complete reliability

Please stop reading his stuff as it causes you constipation.

[Fritz]

Yes but wist we know from previous posts you really didn't like the choice but felt it was an obvious one for Thompson.

McGinn reported of a new, Thompson and McCarthy agreed upon organizational push for bigger, tougher and less injured and then predicted Jones as the choice of that organization. You can't square that circle of facts. Its obvious McGinn's original report was much too forceful and there still existed circumstances where an injury history or the presence of bigger players would not prevent the drafting of talent.

The Lacy pick is even more proof the injury thing in the article was non-sense.

I know Bretsky is correct that it's McGinn's job to create interest to sell papers, but this gets at the problem the NFL faces: becoming entertainment instead of sports first, and in doing so getting away from things like, oh, truth.

I'm about sick of McGinn's leading us down the wrong path while claiming he's got inside information. He was absolutely adamant that the Packers were almost histrionic in their new desire to avoid any player with any semblance of injury, and he gave as evidence the release of Saine and DJ SMith, while ignoring that the team did not cut Sherrod or Sean Richardson or Andrew Quarless. And then when the Packers drafted a guy in the second round with a history of nagging injuries, the JSO gave us this headline:

"Packers almost reluctantly select Alabama's Eddie Lacy as their back for the future"

Really? They didn't want Eddie Lacy, but they were forced to take him? By whom? After people bitching about Thompson's predilection for taking surprising players (Rodgers, Collins, Jennings) instead of expected players (like Chad Jackson instead of Jennings), now somehow Thompson is reluctantly bowing to some kind of pressure to take a running back he didn't really want?

Isn't it possible Thompson wanted to stock up on picks in rounds 4-7? Isn't it more plausible that he agreed with the majority of draft-watchers that this draft lacked star power but was stacked, depth-wise? Perhaps he felt Lacy was the best talent available at that spot and filled an area of need?

McGinn went out on a limb to try to create two new narratives for this team: that they're openly admitting they were too softnsmall, and that they were going to be hypervigilant about choosing players who were injury-free. The latter is obviously not true given their first two picks, and this gives me pause about the former.

[falco]

I know Bretsky is correct that it's McGinn's job to create interest to sell papers, but this gets at the problem the NFL faces: becoming entertainment instead of sports first, and in doing so getting away from things like, oh, truth.

I'm about sick of McGinn's leading us down the wrong path while claiming he's got inside information. He was absolutely adamant that the Packers were almost histrionic in their new desire to avoid any player with any semblance of injury, and he gave as evidence the release of Saine and DJ SMith, while ignoring that the team did not cut Sherrod or Sean Richardson or Andrew Quarless. And then when the Packers drafted a guy in the second round with a history of nagging injuries, the JSO gave us this headline:

"Packers almost reluctantly select Alabama's Eddie Lacy as their back for the future"

Really? They didn't want Eddie Lacy, but they were forced to take him? By whom? After people bitching about Thompson's predilection for taking surprising players (Rodgers, Collins, Jennings) instead of expected players (like Chad Jackson instead of Jennings), now somehow Thompson is reluctantly bowing to some kind of pressure to take a running back he didn't really want?

Isn't it possible Thompson wanted to stock up on picks in rounds 4-7? Isn't it more plausible that he agreed with the majority of draft-watchers that this draft lacked star power but was stacked, depth-wise? Perhaps he felt Lacy was the best talent available at that spot and filled an area of need?

McGinn went out on a limb to try to create two new narratives for this team: that they're openly admitting they were too softnsmall, and that they were going to be hypervigilant about choosing players who were injury-free. The latter is obviously not true given their first two picks, and this gives me pause about the former.

I thought the same thing. Might very well be true, but I think he goes outside the bounds of journalism to create a narrative here.

[rbaloha1]

You guys take stuff too literally. Who buys a print newspaper anymore? Check out the number of cities with internet only newSpapers

Discrediting a writer that provides in-depth draft previews is silly and displays jealously.

The Packers drafted 2 tough guys and are using the 49er game as the barometer to fix a problem. The Rams and Seahawks stand toe to toe with niners and fight back. The Packers are too meek against the niners but are slowly changing with a new mindset Mcginn is mentioning.

Keep denying and throwing nonsense tantrums while we laugh at your tirades.

[rbaloha1]

I thought the same thing. Might very well be true, but I think he goes outside the bounds of journalism to create a narrative here.

The draft is fluid which surprises everyone every year.

IS ANYONES MOCK DRAFT 100 PER CENT CORRECT?