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Is Dom.....aka.....the Dominator in the SB Year a FRAUD or has TT and/or injuries let him down

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  • #31
    I think it's mostly personnel.

    Woodson declined and is now gone.
    Nick Collins gone.
    Tramon Williams declined due to injury.
    Desmond Bishop injured.
    Cullen Jenkins gone.

    None of these players have been adequately replaced, either be bringing in a new player, or by having the original player get back to what he was.

    There is at least some hope. Hayward had a fine rookie year and should get better. Hopefully Bishop will be back. Datone Jones could give them some of what Cullen Jenkins offered. So far they have not come close to replacing what Tramon Williams and Nick Collins offered.
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    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
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    • #32
      Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
      Woodson free lanced too much which caused some of the problems.

      Maybe everyone will be filling their gaps properly and trusting teammates the way Capers draws it up.
      i don't see that it was woodsons fault, guy was held out by the training staff for almost half the season

      the secondary still had massive problems figuring out who should be covering who while he was out

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      • #33
        Originally posted by red View Post
        i don't see that it was woodsons fault, guy was held out by the training staff for almost half the season

        the secondary still had massive problems figuring out who should be covering who while he was out
        I am a big time Woodson fan (own a super bowl jersey).

        First, Woodson did not trust teammates in fulfilling assignments and overcompensated. Declining physical skills (woodson was in denial) resulted in some breakdowns.

        Second, philoshophical differences with Capers. Upset role was not more like Polomalu which imo Capers should have allowed.

        Thirdly, when you are attempting to teach young players about team defense and understanding assignments, Woodson is not the person you want around whispering this is b.s.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by red View Post
          i don't see that it was woodsons fault, guy was held out by the training staff for almost half the season

          the secondary still had massive problems figuring out who should be covering who while he was out
          There was still a bit of that but I actually thought the number of times I saw WTH? pass coverage out there among the DBs was down in 2012. I took that to mean Burnett was getting the right calls and guys knew how to react. No doubt pressure helped but guys were out of position less last year than any other Capers year save 2010.
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          • #35
            Collins masked breakdowns with superior anticipation and speed.

            Collins=Rodgers

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            • #36
              Originally posted by red View Post
              i don't see that it was woodsons fault, guy was held out by the training staff for almost half the season

              the secondary still had massive problems figuring out who should be covering who while he was out
              I'm starting to rethink trying to bring Charles Woodson back for another season.

              The one spot that TT glaringly ignored in this draft was our #2 or #3 priority need:

              Safety (SS)

              We need some real tackling ability/ hard ass toughness there. WE need some more co-ordination and focus on that. That may not ever arrive with Jerron McMillian; and in any case will take seasoning. IMO forget M.D. Jennings as a starter. He has to learn to tackle get to that toughness. I'm not sure that can be taught.

              I'm looking now, 'just a little bit' .... for TT to bring Chuck Woodson back. It's the experience and leadership he will give our 'D' overall. It's the fact that TT ignored SS in this draft and that surprized me.

              I'll call it.

              TT will be talking to Charles Woodson. We need help at Safety.

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              • #37
                Jennings offers no run support help.

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                • #38
                  I love Chuck. But he's no safety. Maybe he'd be a good assistant CB coach or team motivator.

                  I don't think we can blame injuries - every team has them. We just happen to have more the past few years.

                  I think Williams shoulder and not allowing it to heal was dumb. I think not having a quality safety has hurt.

                  But I don't think the defense is terrible. Recall, our offense was so fucking good that teams would just have to pass/bomb and occasionally connect. And the 'prevent' scheme comes into play.

                  I think we judge teams and coaches by wins. Would I like more playoff wins - sure. Giants stung us at their peak (like we did to the league year prior) and Niners were clearly the better team despite the ability to provide excuses.

                  I think Dom is fine. I don't think we'll be a top 5 defense this year - but I'm hoping our offense is so fucking dominant that it doesn't need to be in order to win.
                  The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                  Vince Lombardi

                  "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                  • #39
                    Dom needs to prove it -- the last 2 season ending debacles do not help with Dom's reputation.

                    What does Dom need to do to counteract modern offenses?

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