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One play here and there doesn't mean much. For me, all the times he was late getting to where he needed to be, the times he couldn't break up passes he was almost there for, etc. showed last year that his time was ending.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostThis is not close to Willie Mays.
Recall in the playoffs C-Wood stuffed AP one on one which showed he can still play. Against the niners, CW did his part by playing Davis mano to mano effectively.
Niner players wanted CW after they lost Gholson.
Keep going CW -- it may take longer than originally expected.
Quite frankly, long before they released him, I was hoping he wouldn't be back in GB next year.
The problem is with old guys, especially really old ones of which Woodson is now one for football, things can change very quickly. I can't remember who it was, but one of the retired NFL greats one time talked about what off seasons do to you, even if you continue conditioning. He said you can leave in January thinking "I can still play this game", then September rolls around and everything seems different.
In 2011 Woodson wasn't nearly the player he was in 2010. I thought in 2012 the difference from 2011 was even greater. 2013 could very well be the year he is put out there on reputation, then unceremoniously benched in favor of someone unheard of.
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That one play highlights the guy can still play in a some type of role. Watch the niner game.Originally posted by Patler View PostOne play here and there doesn't mean much. For me, all the times he was late getting to where he needed to be, the times he couldn't break up passes he was almost there for, etc. showed last year that his time was ending.
Quite frankly, long before they released him, I was hoping he wouldn't be back in GB next year.
The problem is with old guys, especially really old ones of which Woodson is now one for football, things can change very quickly. I can't remember who it was, but one of the retired NFL greats one time talked about what off seasons do to you, even if you continue conditioning. He said you can leave in January thinking "I can still play this game", then September rolls around and everything seems different.
In 2011 Woodson wasn't nearly the player he was in 2010. I thought in 2012 the difference from 2011 was even greater. 2013 could very well be the year he is put out there on reputation, then unceremoniously benched in favor of someone unheard of.
No doubt skills are diminished but the anticipation is still there along with the ability to throw around his body to make plays. Remains an effective blitzer.
Probably does not return to GB because he does not agree with Capers schemes and calls and youth requires reps.
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Anticipation helps, but a gambler who has lost his quickness and speed is a sitting duck to be beaten.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostThat one play highlights the guy can still play in a some type of role. Watch the niner game.
No doubt skills are diminished but the anticipation is still there along with the ability to throw around his body to make plays. Remains an effective blitzer.
Probably does not return to GB because he does not agree with Capers schemes and calls and youth requires reps.
Throwing ones body around isn't so good for a brittle ancient one, and CW is both brittle and ancient.
I really expect that regardless where he signs, he will play very little.
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Pride is the slave of humiliation.
Charles Woodson should be enjoying the start of retirement. Looking forword hopefully for him!? The HOF induction ceremony.
Not signing on anywhere for possibly a severely crippling injury.
If he wants to be a coach and feels prepared to do so. Offer as a coach.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Whatever the role CW can still make plays. The lack of throwing your body around gives you Hawks which makes your defense average at best.Originally posted by Patler View PostAnticipation helps, but a gambler who has lost his quickness and speed is a sitting duck to be beaten.
Throwing ones body around isn't so good for a brittle ancient one, and CW is both brittle and ancient.
I really expect that regardless where he signs, he will play very little.
CW still has the respect of players. Current niners wanting him speaks volumes.
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I think CW won't get picked up until TC or pre-season (if at all) and that may be as a replacement for an injured player. I love CW, he's a great blitzer and is willing to get in front of a RB, not to mention per all accounts a hell of a guy. However his pass coverage skills have declined. I have seen him blow too many coverage assignments and he freelances/gambles too often, IMO and doesn't have the speed any longer to make up for those.
At some point in every players career, there comes a time when the game passes them by whether it's due to age, injury, or simply that their skills have declined. I think Woodson's time is here. He may have one more season left, but the way he's been hurt over the past few years, it's going to be tough for a team to sign him. I think the fact that no team has signed him yet speaks volumes.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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Too bad if Capers liked it or not, wasn't that the position he played when he won DPOY???Originally posted by KYPack View Post
"Rover" DC created this job to keep Charles in there. I don't think Capers really liked the idea and felt it weakened the D.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Another note on this, I read an article a while back - can't remember where, I might've been slumming at Bleacher Report - that was talking about vets with big cap numbers, and it brought up CW and his $10million, and went on to say he was a warrior, you just have to pay the man.
Shows what the talking heads know...no one is going to pay him $10million, no one is likely to pay him $1million the way things are looking.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Originally posted by Patler View PostI wonder if his urge to play is that strong.
On the NFL Network today they were saying CWood is not open to playing for a rebuilding team. He just wants to hang on.
It's kind of sad......I think over the past couple years his coverage skills have really diminished and he needs to be a guy out there with the freedom to roam and take gambles in a defense like he used to in Green Bay.
Ted saw that and with our pish posh/aka inconsistent pass rush he realized GB was better moving on.
At first this had a cheap deal from Hoody Genius written all over it..........now it looks like the NFL GM's have watched the tape and have minimal interest due to dimished skillsTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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He wouldn't have had to if the 49ers had signed him.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostWhy should any team sign Woodson now?
Speed is diminished but how does he cover Vernon Davis mano to mano?
Hey BoltFam! As you surely remember, I put two articles out here on boltbeat.com discussing the Bolts´ strong safety situation. Besides left tackle, this ...
Poll Time:
Who Should Play Strong Safety in 2013…Woodson?
Friday May 10th, 2013 at 4:11 PM
By: MC Boltman ... San Diego Chargers
"...** the word is out that Charles Woodson changed his mind and not necessarily “needs” to play for a Super Bowl contender anymore; i.e. he is open-minded to jump on a team´s roster which is in “rebuilding stage” **.
Well, sounds like he´s turning his head south (…SoCal). Does Charles Woodson make sense for the Chargers?
Woodson was selected by the Oakland Raiders with the fourth overall pick in the 1998 NFL Draft.
In 2006 he went on to play for the Green Bay Packers and spent the past seven years with the team. He was voted eight times to the Pro Bowl and named seven times to the All-Pro team in his career.
Woodson also won the 2009 Defensive Player of the Year award, but he has seen his play decline in recent years. " See LINK above for the entire story.
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There are conflicting stories out there now and that.... maybe? Charles Woodson is exactly like:
So many aging Pro athletes 'and once - upon - a - time' terrific stars' and simply now at his age ... hanging on? For some reason I cannot imagine a man like Charles Woodson hanging on for what Ted Thompson 'even' might offer him as the season progress's and the Green Bay Packers (Lord Forbid) find themselves hard up against adversity and Defensive Back.
I don't pull for adversity.Therefore I don't see Charles Woodson back in the Green and Gold.
Will he play again in the NFL? That's reasonably, as a best guess:
Maybe!?
Now.... if he offered as a coach/player coach 'with a bonus clause'. I'd love to see Charles Woodson get a chance with our Packers; and if his price was reasonable.
Why do I imagine that Charles Woodson might price himself; rather too high right now!?
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