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A Strength and Conditioning Program That Works: Six Seattle Players Busted for PEDs Since 2011

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  • #31
    Well, integrity is an issue for people who have short memories. No one gets verklempt over greenies.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      i agree

      if there's no testing in place, then why the hell not take HGH?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by red View Post
        i agree

        if there's no testing in place, then why the hell not take HGH?

        there's absolutely no downside to taking various growth hormones. Only positives! What could possibly go wrong??

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        • #34
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Well, integrity is an issue for people who have short memories. No one gets verklempt over greenies.
          Is Greenies all the 70s Steelers were taking? I always thought they were the pioneers of juicing the NFL.. hasn't seemed to tarnish anything they've done.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            It can be used as a masking agent for steroids.
            masking agents are myth.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
              there's absolutely no downside to taking various growth hormones. Only positives! What could possibly go wrong??

              Cancer

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                masking agents are myth.
                Interesting. Please elaborate.

                (As I understood it, masking agents take the graphs of a urine test and turn it into porn scramblevision. Does anyone remember back when the only way to get porn was to watch the blocked channels?)
                I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by NewsBruin View Post
                  Does anyone remember back when the only way to get porn was to watch the blocked channels?
                  I remember adjusting the fuzz out of HBO and skinimax at midnight in highschool to watch the soft-core porn. That, MTV's spring break and the underwear section in the JC Penny catalog were this 15 year olds best friends.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mission View Post
                    This might sound ridiculous, but if this is your profession and there are MILLIONS of dollars on the line: why WOULDN'T you take HGH? Seems kind of like the cost of doing business.

                    I mean, guys do a lot of shit for a lot less than $10mil a year. I'd take it for a few years to set my kids up and their kids up for life especially if it was the difference between 5mil a year and selling insurance.

                    Save me the integrity stuff please. This is a gladiator sport and the NFLPA's reluctance to institute HGH testing makes it obvious that it's a big part of the Bigger / Stronger / Faster mentality of the league and its players.
                    HGH helps with the healing process since it helps cartilidge repair faster and repairs muscles quicker.

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                    • #40
                      Will all 6 of these players be suspended early in the 2013 season?

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                      • #41
                        If I could legitimately get my hands on some HGH, I would use it (note: not abuse it).

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                        • #42
                          They were talking about Seattle and this issue on the NFLN tonight and there is a chance the league could fine the seachickens over this.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                            I remember adjusting the fuzz out of HBO and skinimax at midnight in highschool to watch the soft-core porn. That, MTV's spring break and the underwear section in the JC Penny catalog were this 15 year olds best friends.
                            See, kids don't appreciate how tough we had it.
                            I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                            • #44
                              But back to PEDs, I belive there are some meds that serve as masking agents by blocking or diluting definitive proof of steroids or weed. Adderol, a stimulant, would serve to make someone feel more alert and wired (it's the opposite of what stimulants do to a person diagnosed with ADHD, funny enough). I don't believe it has any drug-masking properties.

                              Some folks on the board speculated that the diuretics in StarCaps served as masking agents for marijuana. I can see how turning on the waterworks would reduce clear readings for specific substances. Still, the league does not ever say what the substance is, so the playes are able to get the first volley in the court of public opinion.

                              Charles Rogers of the Lions received a suspension, ostensibly for masking agents, before playing in his first game.

                              RBAloha says masking agents are only a myth, which relieves me greatly.
                              I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                              • #45
                                Personally I've always assumed that over 90% of the league is on PED's. I'd actually be upset if they weren't. The NFL is supposed to be the highest level of football competition in the world. But if we're being honest with ourselves we know they are. They're extreme competitors beyond what most of us can even understand. We don't need more testing we need more lip-service for testing so that kids have good role models and can watch in blissful ignorance. Really though who are we to demand entertainment then question the manor in which professional athletes accomplish it?
                                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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