I don't define desperation as offering 8x more than the next team was willing to pay. I'd like to see the guaranteed number because this makes a lot more sense if he's just added longshot competition. He could well find himself cut in August. That's a big boy injury that has ended a lot of careers.
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Yea, Viking TE Kyle Rudolph had the same injury. It took him 12 months to recover.....it's not a trivial injury.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostI don't define desperation as offering 8x more than the next team was willing to pay. I'd like to see the guaranteed number because this makes a lot more sense if he's just added longshot competition. He could well find himself cut in August. That's a big boy injury that has ended a lot of careers.
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I am actually surprised the deal is that low. I am almost as curious about what happens to him next, to see what kind of deal he can play himself into if healthy this year.
But the Packers release does seem less surprising at this number.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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How much, if any, guaranteed money he gets will be telling. If there really was 3 teams asking after him, he should've gotten something up front. If he didn't, it was likely his agent blowing hot air.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostI don't define desperation as offering 8x more than the next team was willing to pay. I'd like to see the guaranteed number because this makes a lot more sense if he's just added longshot competition. He could well find himself cut in August. That's a big boy injury that has ended a lot of careers.
It's a pretty shitty time of year to be an FA and expect anything much more than vet minimum. He did ok for himself to get 1.5.Originally posted by pbmaxBut the Packers release does seem less surprising at this number.
Have to wonder what he turned down from the Pack though, eh? Weren't they rumoured to have offered him a pay cut?--
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Big deal. He is not good and he went to a team that will be 8-8 at best.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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The Vikings are good, man. AP is great. Ponder, while not a star, is coming into his prime and has a legit outside weapon to throw to. The defense is alright. Harrison is coming into his own. They had a major hole at LB. This makes them better and they were good to begin with.Originally posted by Tony Oday View PostBig deal. He is not good and he went to a team that will be 8-8 at best.
I do think we're the better team, but we have the tougher schedule. They could easily win a bunch of games and we could easily lose a bunch with the schedule we have.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Did we really ask him if he'd take a pay cut? I don't remember hearing that...Originally posted by Guiness View PostHow much, if any, guaranteed money he gets will be telling. If there really was 3 teams asking after him, he should've gotten something up front. If he didn't, it was likely his agent blowing hot air.
It's a pretty shitty time of year to be an FA and expect anything much more than vet minimum. He did ok for himself to get 1.5.
Have to wonder what he turned down from the Pack though, eh? Weren't they rumoured to have offered him a pay cut?
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This is a document on complete hamstring ruptures in the NFL and their recovery results. I think table III on page 2 shows exactly how special it would be for Mr. Bishop to return to play.
The average draft round of players who returned after the injury: 3.25
The average draft round of players who didn't return: 5.5
Average games played before the injury for successful returners: 49.875
Average games played before injury for unsuccessful returners: 36.5
Average games played after the injury for successful returners: 38.5
Average games played after the injury for unsuccessful returners: 0
Its worth noting though that the specialist that Rudolph worked with predraft was from Owatana and that area seems to be the leader in this kind of treatment. Good chance this had something to do with Desmond's decision as well.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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There were stories saying that the Packers would release Bishop unless they could trade him or restructure his contract. I don't know that Bishop ever acknowledged that the Packers wanted him to take a cut, and TT never talks about contract info.Originally posted by Pugger View PostDid we really ask him if he'd take a pay cut? I don't remember hearing that...I can't run no more
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I don't know - there was a lot of talk that he would be offered one after the Jones contract was inked, but you may be right and they never did.Originally posted by Pugger View PostDid we really ask him if he'd take a pay cut? I don't remember hearing that...
Looking at the JSO article about his release, looks like they may not have. He also tweaked it at the minicamp
There also was the injury. While Bishop assured the hamstring tendon tear suffered in last year's preseason opener at San Diego is fully healed, he did have a muscle strain on the inside of the hamstring that sidelined him through organized team activities and minicamp. Bishop admitted he probably tried to run and cut prematurely, saying, "that wasn't the smartest thing to do."
Bishop's conversation with Thompson went well. He thanked the GM for the opportunity, and Bishop did say there's a chance he could return to the Packers if the compensation isn't right elsewhere. This is the familiar setting.--
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Originally posted by red View Postthats fucking great
another fan favorite is allowed to walk and goes right to our most hated enemy
On the very cheap as well; Kudos for the Vikings GM. Dude is making a lot of nice moves...building through the draft and using FA to fill needs.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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This is called a cost effective shot at a solution with very minimal risk.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostSomething about this reeks of desperation. Bishop can be a great player but this is the worst case scheme to play in for an athletically challenged middle linebacker. On the other hand they won't have to platoon him like they might in a 3-4 because he can simply leave the field in nickle for them.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Tony Oday View PostBig deal. He is not good and he went to a team that will be 8-8 at best.
He was our best ILB two years ago. And the Vikes are not that bad. Eight wins would be my prediction for them as well.....I agree we're better. But let's not ignore the possibility that this could really help the QueensTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I agree for the most part but he left them REALLY thin at LB this year. He did stick to his draft board though and didn't reach for a LB.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostOn the very cheap as well; Kudos for the Vikings GM. Dude is making a lot of nice moves...building through the draft and using FA to fill needs.
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