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  • #46
    Originally posted by packer4life View Post
    Bold!

    There is no way he cuts Williams and Taylor. One hasn't gotten his opportunity yet (injured when featured in the game plan against Houston) and the other is a special teams regular. TT loves his TEs, and these two were just recently drafted and are not going anywhere. You must be really high on Bostick...

    Daniels stays. He showed productivity last year and will only improve. Too early to pull the plug on him. I do think Lattimore/Kuhn/Starks go.
    I think they only keep four TEs this year, Finley, Quarless, Mulligan and someone new (maybe Bostick). Mulligan makes it because of MM's "commitment" to better blocking and an improved run game. Mulligan can replace Taylor on STs. Williams has been on the field some, just never seems to show up after the preseason games are done. Lower round draft picks don't always get their third and fourth years to prove their worth.

    Daniels size catches up to him this year. Weren't we told there is an unwritten edict to get bigger and tougher? Daniels goes the way of DJ Smith. Good guy, competitor, just too small and there will be a lot of DL competition this year. His only hope is if Neal goes down to injury again, Jolly isn't even a glimmer of his former self and guys like Boyd show nothing.

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    • #47
      Bold list, and it's hard to disagree with much. If Sherrod is not healthy, I think he gets an injury settlement. If he can go though, he's a first round pick that hasn't had much opportunity on the field.

      Kuhn is on the bubble. A few teams aren't carrying an FB this year, and NE has 6 TEs who are likely to make the team! The others you mention - fringe players who are on the bubble every year, they make it in TC or they don't.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        I won't limit myself to just one each way. These guys will not make the team:

        Offense - Sherrod, Kuhn, Starks, DJ Williams, Ryan Taylor
        Defense - Daniels, Francois, Lattimore, T. Williams.
        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
        Wow. That would be a huge helping of humble pie for Thompson to swallow in one year.
        Why? Change is constant. Of all those guys, only Sherrod was a high pick.

        I think Patler is wrong about Sherrod. I think he has a good shot at being the starting RT.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Why? Change is constant. Of all those guys, only Sherrod was a high pick.

          I think Patler is wrong about Sherrod. I think he has a good shot at being the starting RT.
          The RT/LT situation is interesting because Sherrod was put in at LT with Bulaga at RT, now we're talking about Bulaga at LT and Sherrod on the right side. Is the move of Bulaga over written in stone? Does Sherrod get a sniff over there?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
            The RT/LT situation is interesting because Sherrod was put in at LT with Bulaga at RT, now we're talking about Bulaga at LT and Sherrod on the right side. Is the move of Bulaga over written in stone? Does Sherrod get a sniff over there?
            I think it's pretty much written in stone. I think MM learned a lesson last year. Your best pass-pro OT has to be on the left side. It would be too much of a gamble to put Sherrod there, both because of his leg, and because in terms of playing experience, he's practically a rookie. If, over time, Sherrod proves to better than Bulaga, perhaps they would switch, but it won't happen this year.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #51
              Was there any mention of Sherrod during ota's? How is his leg, it should be healthy by now one would think.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                Was there any mention of Sherrod during ota's? How is his leg, it should be healthy by now one would think.
                He had surgery in January. MM has said the surgery was a huge help. However guys who have off-season surgeries seldom if ever take part in OTA's.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #53
                  Not sure why, but I just have a feeling Sherrod's career is done, at least in GB.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    Not sure why, but I just have a feeling Sherrod's career is done, at least in GB.
                    He's in a bad spot to be sure. The biggest knock against him the way I see it is that he's essentially a rookie...with just a 2 year contract. The team will take a shorter term view of him, if he shows some promise it might not be enough.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                      He's in a bad spot to be sure. The biggest knock against him the way I see it is that he's essentially a rookie...with just a 2 year contract. The team will take a shorter term view of him, if he shows some promise it might not be enough.
                      They have a numbers problem, too. Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Newhouse and Barclay might take all the spots available for tackles. Then there is Datko, too. There is a lot of competition for what is likely to be no more than 4 roster spots for tackles.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Not sure why, but I just have a feeling Sherrod's career is done, at least in GB.
                        You and I are a couple of the few who have tossed out the Homer Pie on Sherrod
                        He's never been good; even when healthy. Adios Sherry
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          You and I are a couple of the few who have tossed out the Homer Pie on Sherrod
                          He's never been good; even when healthy. Adios Sherry
                          I thought Newhouse was clearly the better player at the time Sherrod was injured, which was disappointing because Sherrod was a first round draft pick who I hoped would come in ready to contribute, as Bulaga had. No reason to expect Sherrod to be any better now, since he has not been able to practice or do much. I am hopeful that Bakhtiari or Datko perform better than Sherrod did. I think Barclay already has, but might not stay at tackle. Sherrod could be the #5 or #6 tackle.

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                          • #58
                            Hmmm, I thought I heard Sherrod was starting to come around right before he broke his leg. You have to recall he didn't have any offseason workouts with the team his rookie year because of the lockout. Until we find out he is still hobbling in this year's TC I'm not going to write him off just yet.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                              Hmmm, I thought I heard Sherrod was starting to come around right before he broke his leg. You have to recall he didn't have any offseason workouts with the team his rookie year because of the lockout. Until we find out he is still hobbling in this year's TC I'm not going to write him off just yet.
                              Ya, some say he was coming around. I didn't see it, but I don't claim to know much about O-line play. As an observer, I didn't see it.

                              Realistically, the rookies don't get all that much off season work before their first season anyway. The draft is held the end of April. The rookies come to a few days of rookie camp, but if not signed don't do much after that. The team is pretty well gone for the last 3 weeks before TC starts.

                              The best off season work used to happen in March and April, and rookies never have been a part of it. That is why the most significant off season for a player is after his rookie season.

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                              • #60
                                Sherrod's risk this season is health and money. He needs reps and practice time. If he is healthy, he stays on the roster. If he's not, things get interesting.

                                Spotrac.com has him down for a $2.6 million dollar cap hit if he is cut this year. It has numbers for 2013 and 2014 contract years that leave the impression that cutting him prior to the regular season might be spread out over the two years, causing a 500K net hit this year and basically a wash next. However, he is not a free agent until 2016 and Spotrac has no contract numbers for 2015.

                                Unless 2015 has something very strange, he could be jettisoned as long as they can spread the hit out over two years.

                                But worse for him is that second surgery, since that time, there has been no timetable and McCarthy hasn't even hinted when he might see him, much less what might be expected from him. It took two full years for Flanagan to recover from his fracture and start to play well again. Sherrod hits that mark about Week 10 this year.

                                As for Newhouse over Sherrod, availability gives the battle it to Newhouse, obviously. But do not forget that in the fateful KC game, Newhouse lost control of his guy wide once again (and failed to followup again). The KC rusher crashed into RT Sherrod who was doing a fine job blocking his man and giving Rodgers a pocket.

                                On the field its no contest who is better. But he has not been on the field and he needs practice reps.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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