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Yes, but more playing time will reveal whether it was a fluke (which I suspect of the sack/fumble) or a true failing (which I suspect of the bad timing/read int). Though the WR did not help with that by getting knocked off his route.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThe problem is that 4 years in, he is. I don't see much reason to expect improvement.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I think the INT was on the WR. The sack fumble...Newhouse really laid an egg, but it was coming from the right side and you'd like Harrell to see that and do something - throw it away, pull the ball down and turtle, tuck and run. It was pretty fast to be sure.Originally posted by pbmax View PostYes, but more playing time will reveal whether it was a fluke (which I suspect of the sack/fumble) or a true failing (which I suspect of the bad timing/read int). Though the WR did not help with that by getting knocked off his route.
Having said that, he showed very little for a guy going into his fourth year.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Saw another testimonial that Vince is no dumb-dumb. No need to speculate, his on-field decisions will quickly tell the truth, or as Forrest Gump's mom says, "Stupid is what stupid does."
Quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo said in advance of the game that Young would have to learn the offense differently than his quarterback counterparts because he missed the first seven installations of the offensive playbook.
“The other guys have had the benefit of getting the installations three times. The hard part is, he’s not going to get them. He’s going to get them by game plan,” McAdoo explained. “So you’re going to have to teach everything by game plan. I will say this: When he showed up, he was ready to work and he was excited to work. I think a lot of the guy in the short time he’s been here, he’s approached it the right way, he’s fitting in in the room and he’s working to take our terminology and put it into what he knew in the past and merge them so he has something to sink his teeth into and then go out and perform.
“He’s also trying to digest what we’re asking him to do fundamentally, and that’s a lot, but he’s very capable. Very capable.”
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Geezeopete. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. If Graham Harrell plays his best game of his entire NFL life, he might just match an average Colt McCoy performance. Coleman is years away from being emergency starter material. You can tell if a guy is NFL ready in the preseason, even if he's playing with second/third stringers, just recall Hasselbeck.
At least Vince Young has proven ability
Seems like a century ago.....
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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BTW, I heard Tom Silverstein say on the Lucas & Lepay radio show that it's possible that the Packers will decide that both Harrell and Young are inadequate, and they'll bring-in a new veteran after final cutdown. So the three people who voted for "guy off the scrapheap" maybe aren't so dumb after all. Well, perhaps they are dumb, but they may yet be proven correct in this instance.
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That's totally risky and pretty inconsistent with the current regime's policies. Young it seems was just brought in to light a fire under the rear ends of the backups. It seems increasingly like Harrell will be the guy. Good enough for a handful of snaps, and knows the offense. Should Rodgers go down for the season, I could see them pulling in a guy off the street who has extensive experience running a pro offense, but I wonder about their confidence in VY. Anyway, still two more games to go...Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostBTW, I heard Tom Silverstein say on the Lucas & Lepay radio show that it's possible that the Packers will decide that both Harrell and Young are inadequate, and they'll bring-in a new veteran after final cutdown. So the three people who voted for "guy off the scrapheap" maybe aren't so dumb after all. Well, perhaps they are dumb, but they may yet be proven correct in this instance."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I think he at least made his dismissal much less likely. I think your backup needs to be a steady veteran with years of starting experience or a youngster with a high upside. That sounds like VY and Coleman. Harrell would be a smart kid who prepares well, works hard, and has blown chunks every time he has stepped into a real game.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostI think that's the point of Silverstein's comments, nothing is settled. I thought Harrell locked-up the job with last flash of adequacy, but the two remaining games will matter a lot, in his opinion.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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