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  • #16
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Someone on Twitter said Young moved up. I don't know how unless McCarthy plans to run a QB bootleg offense if Rodgers goes down.

    These guys have to keep playing and you have to hope one of them sorts it out. But Harrell cannot be this limited and that loose with the football.
    The problem is that 4 years in, he is. I don't see much reason to expect improvement.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      The problem is that 4 years in, he is. I don't see much reason to expect improvement.
      Yes, but more playing time will reveal whether it was a fluke (which I suspect of the sack/fumble) or a true failing (which I suspect of the bad timing/read int). Though the WR did not help with that by getting knocked off his route.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Yes, but more playing time will reveal whether it was a fluke (which I suspect of the sack/fumble) or a true failing (which I suspect of the bad timing/read int). Though the WR did not help with that by getting knocked off his route.
        I think the INT was on the WR. The sack fumble...Newhouse really laid an egg, but it was coming from the right side and you'd like Harrell to see that and do something - throw it away, pull the ball down and turtle, tuck and run. It was pretty fast to be sure.

        Having said that, he showed very little for a guy going into his fourth year.
        --
        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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        • #19
          Saw another testimonial that Vince is no dumb-dumb. No need to speculate, his on-field decisions will quickly tell the truth, or as Forrest Gump's mom says, "Stupid is what stupid does."




          Quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo said in advance of the game that Young would have to learn the offense differently than his quarterback counterparts because he missed the first seven installations of the offensive playbook.

          “The other guys have had the benefit of getting the installations three times. The hard part is, he’s not going to get them. He’s going to get them by game plan,” McAdoo explained. “So you’re going to have to teach everything by game plan. I will say this: When he showed up, he was ready to work and he was excited to work. I think a lot of the guy in the short time he’s been here, he’s approached it the right way, he’s fitting in in the room and he’s working to take our terminology and put it into what he knew in the past and merge them so he has something to sink his teeth into and then go out and perform.

          “He’s also trying to digest what we’re asking him to do fundamentally, and that’s a lot, but he’s very capable. Very capable.”

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          • #20
            Geezeopete. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. If Graham Harrell plays his best game of his entire NFL life, he might just match an average Colt McCoy performance. Coleman is years away from being emergency starter material. You can tell if a guy is NFL ready in the preseason, even if he's playing with second/third stringers, just recall Hasselbeck.

            At least Vince Young has proven ability

            Seems like a century ago.....

            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #21
              Is Matt Leinart still playing?
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #22
                I think Leinhart is still unemployed. As for the poll, ask us again after Young is in camp for more than a week.

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                • #23
                  Kinda rooted for Texas just to beat Leinart and Bush at USC!
                  -digital dean

                  No "TROLLS" allowed!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by digitaldean View Post
                    Kinda rooted for Texas just to beat Leinart and Bush at USC!
                    For some odd reason I was rooting for SC that game, I have no idea why.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                      As for the poll, ask us again after Young is in camp for more than a week.
                      Nah, anybody can find water by drilling. The trick is to use a split green sapling.



                      I despise electronic fish finders.

                      Ya know I think another poll is desperately needed.....

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                      • #26
                        BTW, I heard Tom Silverstein say on the Lucas & Lepay radio show that it's possible that the Packers will decide that both Harrell and Young are inadequate, and they'll bring-in a new veteran after final cutdown. So the three people who voted for "guy off the scrapheap" maybe aren't so dumb after all. Well, perhaps they are dumb, but they may yet be proven correct in this instance.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                          BTW, I heard Tom Silverstein say on the Lucas & Lepay radio show that it's possible that the Packers will decide that both Harrell and Young are inadequate, and they'll bring-in a new veteran after final cutdown. So the three people who voted for "guy off the scrapheap" maybe aren't so dumb after all. Well, perhaps they are dumb, but they may yet be proven correct in this instance.
                          That's totally risky and pretty inconsistent with the current regime's policies. Young it seems was just brought in to light a fire under the rear ends of the backups. It seems increasingly like Harrell will be the guy. Good enough for a handful of snaps, and knows the offense. Should Rodgers go down for the season, I could see them pulling in a guy off the street who has extensive experience running a pro offense, but I wonder about their confidence in VY. Anyway, still two more games to go...
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            Anyway, still two more games to go...
                            I think that's the point of Silverstein's comments, nothing is settled. I thought Harrell locked-up the job with last flash of adequacy, but the two remaining games will matter a lot, in his opinion.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                              I think that's the point of Silverstein's comments, nothing is settled. I thought Harrell locked-up the job with last flash of adequacy, but the two remaining games will matter a lot, in his opinion.
                              I think he at least made his dismissal much less likely. I think your backup needs to be a steady veteran with years of starting experience or a youngster with a high upside. That sounds like VY and Coleman. Harrell would be a smart kid who prepares well, works hard, and has blown chunks every time he has stepped into a real game.
                              [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                              • #30
                                If the Packers cut Graham Harrell, can you imagine any team sacrificing a roster spot to pick him up?

                                The Packers can cut Graham Harrell and have him sitting home as an emergency reserve.

                                TT would be wise to release Graham Harrell right now, IMO.

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