Me and my pal Wist (or, worst Training Camp EVER!!)

[bobblehead]

Lacy and Rodgers will make you a believe in the playmaker theory, bobble. Our DL looks stout as hell. Now we just need to get a little healthy and we have the makings of a SB team.

I still hope you are right...and I hope people don't misunderstand me. This is still a good football team, but not what I had hoped for, and it will be hard to win a superbowl.

The good news is that I believe Seattle and Atlanta are over rated as well, and Kapernick will suffer a bit with film on him...but we play in a division with tough DL's. Teams that tackle well (minn and chicago) and a team that hits the QB well (detroit).

My best guess is that this OL struggles bad. Teams beat them with 4 and ARod has trouble finding open guys. I think we struggle to run even against six in the box.

[bobblehead]

As for the players, the only one I've looked at individually much has been Bacteria. He looked okay against Ari and the Rams, not great, but okay - he looked completely overmatched against the Seahawks.

The OL is a mess - but that all goes back to TT and MM's philosophy of drafting "versatile", mobile OL that can play all 5 positions, but can't run block to save their lives - or at least run block in terms of getting movement one-on-one.

MM's run game is based on movement - no power allowed. All of the OL are underpowered by NFL standards - and it is Lacy who will be in for a rude awakening when he realizes that getting hit 2 yds behind the LOS makes it pretty tough to be busting off those 19 yd runs he was so used to at Alabama.

-------------------------------------------------------

By the by, welcome to reality Bobble... on this website?? it can get lonely over here

I still disagree with you on a lot of things though. I think the OL problems are due to injury primarily. When I though Bulaga would be healthy and Sherrod might play before camp was over I was optimistic. I also think that without the high powered offense, you may see a different philosophy from capers. Furthermore, I blame MM for the weak philosophy on Defense as it was the same before capers was here. I think Capers calls the gameplan that MM wants.

[wist43]

McCarthy has come out chipping with backs and TEs before, but he clearly prefers not to. He isn't going to do it if he thinks the O line should be able to handle the DEs alone and he is not in the habit of junking game plans before halftime. He also expects them to adjust to him and not the other way around. Remember the adjustments that came in 2009 in the Cowboy game, long after most had given up hope of the situation improving.

That said, against the best rush teams (San Fran and Seattle, I would not be surprised to see early help). He helped the OTs in the playoff game though they are more dangerous stunting with Justin. He clearly thinks you can pass on the Seattle secondary and I don't think he would let a question of chipping DEs get in his way since he clearly believes they can be roasted in the air.

Yeah, McCarthy gets around to giving OT's help when the mood strikes him, lol... eventually, after giving it about 30 minutes worth of thought

He's always too slow to adjust... if something isn't working - and it's something that I suspected wouldn't work from the beginning - from my captains chair in my living room - surely MM should have been on the lookout for trouble in paradise, no??

How do you not adjust in the Seattle game last year after the first 5 sacks in the 1st half?? It took him 3 more sacks, and getting into the locker room before it dawned on him - 'is something wrong with this picture'??

I know if I'm Rodgers, I'm in the shotgun, and I'm already running for my life before the ball gets back to me - I'm in MM's ear - "get that turd at LT/RT some help - and get it now"!!!

[wist43]

I still disagree with you on a lot of things though. I think the OL problems are due to injury primarily. When I though Bulaga would be healthy and Sherrod might play before camp was over I was optimistic. I also think that without the high powered offense, you may see a different philosophy from capers. Furthermore, I blame MM for the weak philosophy on Defense as it was the same before capers was here. I think Capers calls the gameplan that MM wants.

It's my understanding that Capers has complete autonomy on defense - Max?? That is correct is it not??

[George Cumby]

What a bunch of pussies.

Fuckin' A.

I'm about ready to buy a gross of Vagisil for you ladies ( Not Pugs and MJ, though, they actually have a pair....... Each.)

[denverYooper]

If injuries don't take anyone irreplaceable, the team will be a shade better this year because Lacy and Perry are clear upgrades at position and the DL is coming into its own.

The D is poised to be very good soon because the core players have all grown together and slowly improved. It seems like they are going to be ready to take the next step within the next year or 2. I don't know if it will happen this season, and there's a good chance Capers won't be the guy to take them to the next level, but they've got some good players and have (IMO) built that thing the right way.

[wist43]

If injuries don't take anyone irreplaceable, the team will be a shade better this year because Lacy and Perry are clear upgrades at position and the DL is coming into its own.

The D is poised to be very good soon because the core players have all grown together and slowly improved. It seems like they are going to be ready to take the next step within the next year or 2. I don't know if it will happen this season, and there's a good chance Capers won't be the guy to take them to the next level, but they've got some good players and have (IMO) built that thing the right way.

Again, in prophesying greatness for the DL - you mean when both of them are on the field at the same time, right??

See the problem there??

[Pugger]

Crazy enough, Mike Tanier lists EDS as a possible breakout player in this column (http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/58388844/).

The FO guys usually do pretty good work, but honestly, this one has me scratching my head. Was EDS just that much better than Saturday last year that he looked like a gem?

This prob.

[Pugger]

Fuckin' A.

I'm about ready to buy a gross of Vagisil for you ladies ( Not Pugs and MJ, though, they actually have a pair....... Each.)

Thanks!

I could understand the hand wringing if we were losing like this in the regular season and our starters were in there all game long. Most of the time I've liked what I've seen when the 1's are in there this summer. Bak his gonna need assistance against the likes of the 49ers but I'd wager Bulaga would too.

[Pugger]

Again, in prophesying greatness for the DL - you mean when both of them are on the field at the same time, right??

See the problem there??

You should go back and read his last sentence.

[denverYooper]

You should go back and read his last sentence.

This.

[Tony Oday]

We really should have five dlinemen on the field in a second and 18.

[pbmax]

It's my understanding that Capers has complete autonomy on defense - Max?? That is correct is it not??

I believe he makes all the calls during the game. But he doesn't have final authority on the D roster. That is Thompson consulting with McCarthy. As for starters and playing time, your guess is as good as mine though the position coaches make the calls during the game to rotate and substitute.

[mraynrand]

Bak his gonna need assistance against the likes of the 49ers but I'd wager Bulaga would too.

The biggest loss with Bulaga getting injured is depth. But Bulaga looked like garbage a couple of times last year, especially at Seattle. But it doesn't help and OT when the defense has absolutely no reason to expect a run. McCarthy changed in the second half of that game last year, and looks to change the balance this year. Should help the line.

[denverYooper]

The Niners look like the team with their shit together right now, but so did the 2011 Packers until they ran into the Kansas City buzzsaw.

Just sayin'.