Strike up the Banjo and bring us Deliverance from Sh!tty safety play

[Bossman641]

How many times must I lecture you two about facts and specifics, when you undermine the narrative being created? You're getting as bad as Patler.

Once more, in case you haven't been paying attention:

The Packer safeties sucked on Sunday,

therefore, either:

A. Capers coached them badly (The Wistian choice)
B. Banjo must be better because he didn't play and thus did not fuck up. It's the "It can't be any worse" theory (current theory of the thread), or
C. It's Ted's fault for not finding better players (my intellectual contribution)

First reminder: do not acknowledge that the Packers' best safety was hurt for the game.

Second reminder: the player Ted didn't pick is always better than the players we watched bumbling around Sunday. Whether they're better or not, they're better.

So don't be throwing those facts and pictures and all that shit out here. You're muddying the perfectly clear waters here. You're forcing me to confront the complexity of the situation, and that's not nearly as much fun as blithely blundering around making broad-sided accusations and offering thoughtless solutions.

Sorry sorry. Dom loves slow, small linemen. His goal is to trot out a 0-0-11 formation, even if it's 3rd and 1.

One thing I'll agree with Packers4Glory on is that, if preseason is to be believed, Banjo might make mistakes but at least he'll make them going full speed. Of course, Hyde's performance Sunday showed us all preseason is a long way from the regular season.

Bottom line, Jennings and McMillan were both too tentative. I'm willing to give them a few weeks to see how they grow but so far this offseason they have disappointed (especially McMillan)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Last year, I thought McMillian had good upside and would easily be our starter this year. Now, I think McMillian is just not very good. Jennings has his moments. Right now, I'm hoping he can get to servicable, but I wouldn't be against giving Banjo or somebody else (Hyde even) a shot.

[pbmax]

Collins took three years to develop a brain. These two need the same amount of time.

[Joemailman]

Banjo's stats from his pro day would have put him in top 5 among safeties at the combine. So, athleticism isn't an issue. Besides, as we saw Sunday, response time is what really matters. That, and tackling. I'd get him some playing time if he's ready. But if not, just throwing him in there out of desperation would be a bad move.

[KYPack]

Collins took three years to develop a brain. These two need the same amount of time.

I was going to post the same thing.

Rookie safeties get ya beat to death.

Nick was a corner in college.

Another brilliant TT draft pick that never gets mentioned now that we need something else.

These kids look OK, but so did Tyrone Culver & other kiddie safeties.

That SF offense is really good, give these two young backliners a chance before you hang 'em both.

[Bretsky]

I don't know who the hell they are, but I think there is shit veterans not in football right now who could play better than the crap we put out there Sunday. It's part of the reason I wanted Eric Reed and campained for Michael Huff.....who isn't great....but he might be compared to what we saw Sunday. We really need Burnett back. Beyond that hopefully somebody can just be good enough to be sub par instead of crap

[Smidgeon]

I was going to post the same thing.

Rookie safeties get ya beat to death.

Nick was a corner in college.

Another brilliant TT draft pick that never gets mentioned now that we need something else.

These kids look OK, but so did Tyrone Culver & other kiddie safeties.

That SF offense is really good, give these two young backliners a chance before you hang 'em both.

I'm still hoping McMillian puts it together. Next to Burnett, it might not have been that bad. But with two players who still don't have the playbook committed to instincts (and like PB and KY mentioned, it takes safeties three to four years), it just stood out a lot more.

Simply having Burnett on the field would have won us that game and irrelevated this thread.

[RashanGary]

Banjo flashed. He has some natural tackling ability i dont think any of our other safeties have. But theres a lot more to being a starting NFL safety than tackling.

I highly doubt he can unseat veteran players right now in his career, but i wouldnt be shocked if turns out to be a player for us. He flashes hotter than all three of the guys we have ahead of him. Burnett, of course, is turning into a well rounded player and i wouldnt compare their overall games, but banjo brings an impact style that inspires hope and intrigue.

[RashanGary]

Oh, great thread title by the way!

[RashanGary]

I see harveys thought that maybe hyde could play SS. He seems real natural in space, instinctive and his tackling has been impressive. His skillset seems more ss than cb.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It is hard to evaluate safeties from the TV broadcast.

Wilde said that Hyde was involved on a lot of the double coverage of Boldin and didn't do so hot. Maybe that was just the plays he noticed, but Wilde at least was at the game and can see the whole field.

Maybe this was just a terrible game. I'm not going to panic yet.

Banjo might be worth a try, but I would be nervous about using him at places like Denver - too susceptible to foggy mountain breakdowns.

[Packers4Glory]

It is hard to evaluate safeties from the TV broadcast.

Wilde said that Hyde was involved on a lot of the double coverage of Boldin and didn't do so hot. Maybe that was just the plays he noticed, but Wilde at least was at the game and can see the whole field.

Maybe this was just a terrible game. I'm not going to panic yet.

Banjo might be worth a try, but I would be nervous about using him at places like Denver - too susceptible to foggy mountain breakdowns.

Hyde looks more like a safety than a CB. We really missed our nickle guy last week almost as much as decisive safety play.

It was so bad we had Bush in on defense at times....

[Fritz]

Keep Calm and Carry On

[Patler]

Collins took three years to develop a brain.

...and the ability to catch the ball. He couldn't catch the darn thing to save his life. But when the light went on, it was very, very bright.

Exactly the reason I am anxious for Burnett to get his season going.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I didn't record the game so I can't go back and check. But my recollection is that Kapernick had all day to find a receiver on too many plays. The Packers seemed to put a huge emphasis on containing the QB and their pass rush suffered. Ain't no safeties in the world can stay with good receivers when the QB has all day to find them, including Burnett. Capers is got to find a happy medium between containment and pressuring the QB. Don't ask me how to do it. All I know is that in this league even Christian Ponder will beat you given a whimpy pass rush. Kapernick was not accurate when he was hurried, which wasn't often enough.