Strike up the Banjo and bring us Deliverance from Sh!tty safety play

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I didn't record the game so I can't go back and check. But my recollection is that Kapernick had all day to find a receiver on too many plays. The Packers seemed to put a huge emphasis on containing the QB and their pass rush suffered. Ain't no safeties in the world can stay with good receivers when the QB has all day to find them, including Burnett. Capers is got to find a happy medium between containment and pressuring the QB. Don't ask me how to do it. All I know is that in this league even Christian Ponder will beat you given a whimpy pass rush. Kapernick was not accurate when he was hurried, which wasn't often enough.

I completely disagree. I thought the game plan was actually very good (and I'm not a big Dom Capers fan). They didn't go all out for Kap so that they could keep him in the pocket and it worked. Sure he had all day to throw, but they played a complete game without any mistakes (no errant throws, fumbles, dropped passes, etc.). That's why they won. We made dumb mistakes all game. You can pull up this thread and quote me in January if we play them again in the playoffs. I'm very confident that we will beat them if we keep the same game plan on defense next time around.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

...and the ability to catch the ball. He couldn't catch the darn thing to save his life. But when the light went on, it was very, very bright.

Exactly the reason I am anxious for Burnett to get his season going.

Yeah but from day one Collins had elite athletic ability and was a great tackler. Those two are slow and can't tackle. I'm in favor of trying to sign a vet if one is available. Did Kerry Rhodes ever get signed?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/07/nfl-best-remaining-free-agents-brandon-lloyd-kerry-rhodes/

Bigby!

[Patler]

Yeah but from day one Collins had elite athletic ability and was a great tackler. Those two are slow and can't tackle. I'm in favor of trying to sign a vet if one is available. Did Kerry Rhodes ever get signed?

I agree about the athletic ability, but not that he was a great tackler right from the start. As I recall, he would lower his head and lose track of guys just before the hit. He regularly took bad angles. His tackling improved before his awareness and ball skills.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hyde looks more like a safety than a CB. We really missed our nickle guy last week almost as much as decisive safety play.

I agree Hyde looks like a potential safety. My position is more that I don't have a position. I am comfortable lipping-off about the lineman, but it is really hard to see on TV who is responsible for secondary breakdowns. It's even harder to judge the safeties than the corners. So I just assume that the coaches are putting the best players they have out there.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I completely disagree. I thought the game plan was actually very good (and I'm not a big Dom Capers fan). They didn't go all out for Kap so that they could keep him in the pocket and it worked. Sure he had all day to throw, but they played a complete game without any mistakes (no errant throws, fumbles, dropped passes, etc.). That's why they won. We made dumb mistakes all game. You can pull up this thread and quote me in January if we play them again in the playoffs. I'm very confident that we will beat them if we keep the same game plan on defense next time around.

I sincerely hope you're right. I just saw it differently. Kap did make a few errant throws on the few times he was pressured. But as I see it he made many more accurate throws because he did have all day to throw. In the playoffs they went after Kap and he killed us with his legs. Last Sunday, fearing his legs, we contained Kap and he killed us with his arm.

[mraynrand]

Packers shut down the run and Kap RO. They sacrificed the secondary to do it. It was a reasonable gamble, but it hurt more because of the replacements. I'm pretty certain if the offense hadn't turned the ball over and had a couple fewer 3 and outs, Packers win.

[Joemailman]

Kind of amazing the all or nothing performance of the Packers offense. 4 TD drives that covered 287 yards. As for the rest of the day... 108 yards, 6 punts and 2 turnovers.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Packers shut down the run and Kap RO. They sacrificed the secondary to do it. It was a reasonable gamble, but it hurt more because of the replacements. I'm pretty certain if the offense hadn't turned the ball over and had a couple fewer 3 and outs, Packers win.

I'm inclined to agree with this. I'm just not sure you need to sacrifice the secondary in order to contain Kap. The argument assumes Rodgers and the offense can compensate for failings of Capers and the defense, a defense that gave up 34 points and 412 passing yards. That assumption discounts a mighty good 49er defense. I'm equally certain the Packers win if its defense somehow is able to force a couple more 49er 3 and outs and possibly a 49er TO by putting more pressure on Kap in key situations.

Just don't ask me how the defense might accomplish this. That's Caper's job.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Double post.

[bobblehead]

Packers shut down the run and Kap RO. They sacrificed the secondary to do it. It was a reasonable gamble, but it hurt more because of the replacements. I'm pretty certain if the offense hadn't turned the ball over and had a couple fewer 3 and outs, Packers win.

5 three and outs, 2 turnovers. I do not blame the defense for losing this game.

[Maxie the Taxi]

5 three and outs, 2 turnovers. I do not blame the defense for losing this game.

Blame is hard to assign. Yeah, the offense had its failings. But the defense did give up 502 yards (412 of which were in the air) and 34 points.

[mraynrand]

It was a team loss. I only pointed out the O shortcomings to illustrate that it wouldn't have taken much to swing the game to a victory.

[George Cumby]

It was a team loss. I only pointed out the O shortcomings to illustrate that it wouldn't have taken much to swing the game to a victory.

On the road against the "physically superior" "tougher" and " better coached" team.

Perhaps not a moral victory, but when the teams meet in January, the Pack has a very good chance of winning. Short-crotch know it, too. That's why he's making all those noises about the meanie-weenie Packers.

[sharpe1027]

If I am McCarthy, I do not play banjo.

Even if I'm not McCarthy, I do not play banjo.

However, here are the names of four safeties who were drafted in the sixth round, after Josh Boyd in the fifth but before Palmer in the sixth. Two, I think, played the first week.

Josh Evans, FS, Jax. I think he played last week.

Jamarri Slaughter SS Cleveland. I don't think he played.

Bacarri Rambo, SS. Wash. I think he played last week.

John Boyett. SS. Indy. Don't know if he made their team.

I fault Thompson for drafting Boyd instead of Bacarri Rambo, simply on the basis of the name. How can you not draft a guy named Bacarri Rambo??? And I think he even played last week! I don't know how well, but maybe we'll see come Sunday.

Somewhere out there, in an opposing team's forum, there is a post about d-linemen that could have been drafted by their team. In it there is a mention of Boyd and a comment that the poster thinks he played last week.