Colts Trade for Brown's Richardson

[KYPack]

I'd say he's a fair hand. Kind of a C+ - B- kind of a player. He can do all the necessary things an RB should do, but...

Jim Brown kind of called the kid out. He's not really a star, a playmaker. He can't do the one thing that the special guys can. He's average at best at breaking tackles. Marshawn Lynch, Peterson can all make runs on their own after freeing themselves from the tackle. Kings eval is probably true. The kid had 12 touchdowns last season. So he will probably do that (double digit touches) for Indy, but 1500 yards a season? I really don't see that production from this guy.

He's young so that could change. Indy was kind of painted in the corner. They were thin at RB and had to bust a move to save their season.

[Brandon494]

You mean the same Marshawn Lynch who struggled in Buffalo? I think change of scenery is just what he needed, Richardson is going to be a stud with the Colts now that he actually has a QB.

[mraynrand]

You mean the same Marshawn Lynch who struggled in Buffalo? I think change of scenery is just what he needed, Richardson is going to be a stud with the Colts now that he actually has a QB.

It's a lot harder to break a tackle when you have six guys draped on you. So TR should have it a lot better, but at the same time it illustrates just ho w impressive AP was last year.

[run pMc]

I think the Browns traded the wrong #1 pick. Wheeden is not a keeper.
Trading TR for Indy's #1 pick sure feels like they're buying high and selling low, but clearly they want to rebuild and if they wanted to move him they got a good price for a good but not elite RB. Doesn't help their chances in the W-L column or the PR department. It's possible there's some personal stuff going on (TR hates the coach or GM, legal issues, etc.) that triggered the trade.

Hardesty sure doesn't look like he's going to break 950 yards for CLE. You can bet CLE fans will be watching to see who they take with this pick. If they're smart they use it to trade down for multiple picks.

Who would you rather have, Richardson or Lacy? Richardson or Ingram?
Was Willis McGahee still available, and could Indy have signed him vs. Richardson?

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think Richardson can get 250 carries/season with Indy. That would put him about 15th in carries in the NFL on an avg year. Put in a 4.3 ypc which would be good as the #20 ypc RB in the NFL and that's almost an 1100 yd rushing season. Give him 45 catches/yr at 8 ypc for 360 yds and you got a 1500 yards from scrimmage RB. I don't think any of these numbers are really outrageous given he's going from a horrible offense to a pretty good one. He's weapon #3 - #4 arguably on the team instead of the only weapon so I think his stats are going to increase. I'd even go with these numbers are slightly conservative.

I'm with Brandon that he's going to really flourish with Indy and very likely get bigger rushing numbers (like 13-1400) going forward.

[Brandon494]

It's a lot harder to break a tackle when you have six guys draped on you. So TR should have it a lot better, but at the same time it illustrates just ho w impressive AP was last year.

AP might be the greatest RB to ever play the game though.

[KYPack]

I think the Browns traded the wrong #1 pick. Wheeden is not a keeper.
Trading TR for Indy's #1 pick sure feels like they're buying high and selling low, but clearly they want to rebuild and if they wanted to move him they got a good price for a good but not elite RB. Doesn't help their chances in the W-L column or the PR department. It's possible there's some personal stuff going on (TR hates the coach or GM, legal issues, etc.) that triggered the trade.

Hardesty sure doesn't look like he's going to break 950 yards for CLE. You can bet CLE fans will be watching to see who they take with this pick. If they're smart they use it to trade down for multiple picks.

Who would you rather have, Richardson or Lacy? Richardson or Ingram?
Was Willis McGahee still available, and could Indy have signed him vs. Richardson?

Few things,
Hardesty is out for the season with a knee.
Lacy. Seriously, I like Eddy.
Richardson over Ingram any day.

Cleveland signed McGahee.

[mraynrand]

I think the Browns traded the wrong #1 pick. Wheeden is not a keeper.

if so, you'd be lucky to get a third for him at this point. Who would give a 1 or 2 for him? Answer: no one. He's a firefly, cancelled after just one season.

[KYPack]

if so, you'd be lucky to get a third for him at this point. Who would give a 1 or 2 for him? Answer: no one. He's a firefly, cancelled after just one season.

Ya probably couldn't get a 3rd for him.

I never got why Holmy was all ate up about Weeden.

Look at the two organizations. Indy was 2-14 two seasons ago and now they are all in for a run at the SB.

Cleve is 2 for 15 years and is ready to toss in the towel after a couple games this year.

[Guiness]

You can bet CLE fans will be watching to see who they take with this pick. If they're smart they use it to trade down for multiple picks.

Everything I've read said they're going to bundle their picks to get to the top of the first and take a franchise QB.

There's a mess of college QBs in the mix. Bridgewater, Boyd, Hundley, McCarron - worse part is, you just know they'll take Manziel if he declares (he can, can't he?)

[run pMc]

if so, you'd be lucky to get a third for him at this point. Who would give a 1 or 2 for him? Answer: no one. He's a firefly, cancelled after just one season.

Yeah, I don't know if you'd get that. Not with the QB's that will be available at the top of the draft and the teams that need a QB. Weeden has backup written all over him IMO. Is he better than Ponder? I'd take Alex Smith over Weeden, and IIRC SF got a R2 for him.

Even if CLE can package picks and move up (or be in a spot to pick top 3) I have no faith they will pick a QB who pans out. Who does the QB throw to? Who else do they have besides Josh Gordon?

Would it be a big middle finger to the fans if they kept the Indy pick and took T.J.Yeldon?

[King Friday]

So he will probably do that (double digit touches) for Indy, but 1500 yards a season? I really don't see that production from this guy.

As a rookie...on a offensively challenged Browns team with a weak rookie QB, no capable receivers, and mediocre OL...Richardson ran for 950 and caught 50 balls for another 350. He had 1300 total yards being THE ONLY FUCKING GUY in Cleveland.

I said 1500 yards from scrimmage...rushing AND receiving. Richardson doesn't have the breakaway speed to rack up 1500 rushing yards on a consistent basis, and Indy is going to pass a lot anyway. However, Richardson demands defensive attention because the dude is a tank. If you don't put at least 7 in the box, he'll gash you to death with 6-10 yard runs. He's money in goal line and short yardage situations. The one real area he needs help in is pass blocking...but Indy will make that lesson a priority from day one.

I don't care what Jim Brown says...the guy is old and senile and has more experience taking shovels to cars than evaluating NFL talent.

[Joemailman]

[mraynrand]

I don't care what Jim Brown says...

hear, hear! That's a bitter old dude, who cares more about protecting his legacy than the fate of the browns. He reminds me of the '72 Dolphins, celebrating each year when that last undefeated team loses.

Bernie Kosar is a much better team icon. Bernie takes every loss like a punch in the gut.

[Guiness]

In other former Browns RB news, Peyton Hillis got released by Tampa. What happened to that guy? Monster season, Madden cover wouldn't sign an extension then the wheels really fell off.

He's only 27. Any possibility he can still do it? I wonder if the Browns bring him in for a look see??? They certainly need a runner!