the future of finley

[denverYooper]

Well, he did start out with a children's book reference, but then it accelerated quickly.

What's with the constant puns these days?

[Old School]

I've been a Packer fan for over 60 years. Never much an x's & o's guy, but I followed and read all I could find. This injury thing is getting out of hand. Yesterday Finley, last week Cobb. Around the league yesterday it was Sam Bradford, Reggie Wayne, Cutler, Cushing, etc. Nobody can tell me this isn't something that is growing each year lately. How do you go forward when you can almost count on losing a player every week? And not just a week or two, but season ending.

A player getting "his bell rung" used to be laughed off. I think before Roger tries to expand to Europe, he better figure out why players are having their bodies torn apart and minds destroyed. This doesn't bode well for a sport I love.

I just heard Merle Hodge giving it the old "it's football; shit happens" line. This coming from a guy who somehow knew it was time to quit when he got lost on the way home from practice and was lucky to be able to call for help.

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the latest from rotoworld

Jermichael Finley - TE - Packers

According to USA Today, the Packers probably won't know Jermichael Finley's playing status for "weeks."
Finley remains in a Green Bay hospital after sustaining a scary neck injury during Sunday's win over the Browns. The good news is that he has regained almost all movement, tests have come back negative so far and he's not expected to need surgery. Those positive developments mean we can think about football again, but owners shouldn't count on having the talented pass-catching tight end anytime soon. You can't just rub some dirt on a neck injury.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Oct 21 - 11:57 AM

[run pMc]

Chris Mortensen reports he's in the ICU.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9857537/jermichael-finley-green-bay-packers-icu-injury

If that's true, that is NOT good.

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the fact the he doesn't have full movement yet is a little scary too

[channtheman]

Chris Mortensen reports he's in the ICU.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9857537/jermichael-finley-green-bay-packers-icu-injury

If that's true, that is NOT good.

To be honest, that's pretty much the only place an injury like this should go. It's not as bad as might you think. They just want to be able to monitor him more frequently and do neuro checks every hour. That kind of thing. Basically, just because he's in ICU doesn't mean he's paralyzed forever.

[run pMc]

...and there's this:

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2013/10/21/4862278/finley-could-need-weeks-for-recovery

so the news isn't real clear yet, but I expect McCarthy or his agent will have more to say in the next day or two. Either way, I think we won't be seeing Finley play for a while. Depending on what the doctors say, he might go on IR.

If we play the "next man up" game, that puts Quarless as the #1 TE, with Bostick and Stoneburner as backups. Yikes. Taylor will probably try to make it back for the CHI game, which helps ST's and not much else.

This has officially reached the 2010 level of injury-absurdity IMO.

[pbmax]

Yes, several Doctors and Nurses have said that suspicion of a neck injury and temporarily loss of feeling/movement would normally end up in ICU no matter the prognosis, based on symptoms alone. More monitoring available, more nurses, fewer patients.

[run pMc]

To be honest, that's pretty much the only place an injury like this should go. It's not as bad as might you think. They just want to be able to monitor him more frequently and do neuro checks every hour. That kind of thing. Basically, just because he's in ICU doesn't mean he's paralyzed forever.

True...as I think about it, that makes sense. If he has movement and sensation, and won't need surgery, that's a positive sign. "In the ICU" is a scary phrase, but I'll step away from the ledge.

[Freak Out]

Looking at that play again, Finley was getting tackled and lowered his head to protect himself. Gibson did try and lead with his shoulder but their helmets collided. Gibson is a punk for doing the "no arm tackle" where he just launches himself and doesn't try and actually tackle, just hit.

Yep. Fin was going down....no reason to try and take a guy out. If you are worried about him gaining an extra yard then tackle him.

[Freak Out]

DP. Big Fin isn't coming back anytime soon. This season maybe....but not right away.

[pbmax]

So, what is he trying to do, why is he not looking where he is going and what, exactly, is he aiming at? I don't think red was right, he wasn't aiming for midsection. If the picture is after the safety knows Finley is going down, he is trying to drill a player into the ground, hopefully a moment before it will be called illegal. Or, if he put his head down too soon, he is trying to trip him at the knees.



The kid had a nice quote at JSO, being a decent human being, concerned for Finley's welfare, pledging to contact him, etc. But the reasoning behind the hit was the true reveal. He said he is not the biggest guy, so he has to be extra aggressive. Looking at that picture, what do you think his idea of aggressiveness is and who did he get it from?

1. He thinks aggressive is, even if an opponent is going down, hit them anyway.

2. Leading with your head/shoulder with no wrap up is good technique (remember Chris Borland said this was the preferred technique to strip the ball from the ball carrier if you were the second guy on the tackle).

3. Did his mother teach him this? Father? Maybe Dad was a football player or encouraged this. But I bet dollars to donuts it was his coaches.

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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1h
Movement in his extremities, now this: RT @MikeGarafolo: #Packers TE Jermichael Finley did some walking around this morning. Great to hear.

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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1h
Movement in his extremities, now this: RT @MikeGarafolo: #Packers TE Jermichael Finley did some walking around this morning. Great to hear.

moving and joking around and should go home today. but then big thing that gets me is the also say in the same sentence that he has "some feeling in most of his extremities"

that doesn't sound good

so if the tests results were negative and he's being sent home, does this just mean he had a really really bad stinger? i'm assuming he doesn't have a broken neck. can it still be something serious if they are sending him home already with no surgery?

[Fritz]

moving and joking around and should go home today. but then big thing that gets me is the also say in the same sentence that he has "some feeling in most of his extremities"

that doesn't sound good

so if the tests results were negative and he's being sent home, does this just mean he had a really really bad stinger? i'm assuming he doesn't have a broken neck. can it still be something serious if they are sending him home already with no surgery?

If he were to permanently lose feeling in one of his, ahem, extremities, maybe he wouldn't be fathering so many children.

But more seriously, this is all good news. Who knows what the future holds, if he'll ever play, if he'd play this season, if he'd be a different, more hesitant player. Who knows.