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  • #16
    Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
    If he's healthy he's a better option than Wallace. Not that our line is great at pass blocking but it's better than Oakland, and our weapons are a thousand times better. He fits here well and would be a backup I felt confident could get me a few wins if needed. Flynn when he did play, really looked like a Rodgers mini-me to my eyes. He played a lot like him.
    Obviously he isn't the same guy who threw 6 TDs in that one game. I'm all for signing him but there is a reason he couldn't make the cut on the Raiders and Bills.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      Obviously he isn't the same guy who threw 6 TDs in that one game. I'm all for signing him but there is a reason he couldn't make the cut on the Raiders and Bills.
      well yeah. totally inferior teams with subpar talent on the offensive side of the ball...plus scheme. Flynn had been in our system for a few seasons and knew the offense. Don't discount having to learn a new system coupled w/ shitty talent plus a system that doesn't fit his style as major factors.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
        Obviously he isn't the same guy who threw 6 TDs in that one game. I'm all for signing him but there is a reason he couldn't make the cut on the Raiders and Bills.
        I'm looking at Matt Flynn's Stats in 2 games with the Oakland Raiders early this season.

        His passing attempts in those two games look curiously low at 34. Otherwise his completion % and QB Rating don't look disastrous.

        His completion average at 7.2 Y/C and game average at 123 Y/G summon questions. ie arm strength

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
          well yeah. totally inferior teams with subpar talent on the offensive side of the ball...plus scheme. Flynn had been in our system for a few seasons and knew the offense. Don't discount having to learn a new system coupled w/ shitty talent plus a system that doesn't fit his style as major factors.
          Good points.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
            well yeah. totally inferior teams with subpar talent on the offensive side of the ball...plus scheme. Flynn had been in our system for a few seasons and knew the offense. Don't discount having to learn a new system coupled w/ shitty talent plus a system that doesn't fit his style as major factors.
            That doesn't explain the fact that he was beaten out by two or three other QBs at each of those places. It might explain poor numbers, but it doesn't explain being released when others were kept.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
              well yeah. totally inferior teams with subpar talent on the offensive side of the ball...plus scheme. Flynn had been in our system for a few seasons and knew the offense. Don't discount having to learn a new system coupled w/ shitty talent plus a system that doesn't fit his style as major factors.
              Your acting like he just didn't win the starting jobs at Oakland and Buffalo, he couldn't even make these teams. This is a guy who threw 60% of his career TD passes in one game which made him a lot of money.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                This is a guy who threw 60% of his career TD passes in one game which made him a lot of money.
                Aren't pro sports wonderful?

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                • #23
                  Maybe the rats are overthinking this? I, being an old fart, just look at it as do I believe Flynn would be a better quarterback in the packer system right now than Wallace or Tolzien? Gotta believe that answer is yes, but what the hell do I know...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                    Oh God.

                    We are all starting to think alike.

                    First, I thought Wallace ain't cutting the mustard, then I figured it might be Tolzien not hacking it.

                    I also think if Matt doesn't light it up in the work-out, they'll stand pat.
                    My first reaction is that TT doesn't leave stones unturned. He is rumored to have interest in everyone from Vick to Tebow. Why? Because he looks into every situation where it doesn't hurt him to do so. Flynn is no different.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      That doesn't explain the fact that he was beaten out by two or three other QBs at each of those places. It might explain poor numbers, but it doesn't explain being released when others were kept.
                      He was beaten out by running/option QBs at each stop. Wilson, Pryor at the first two, he was never really a consideration in Buffalo, just holding the clip board until Manuel (another runner...) got back.

                      Seems to me his best chance was the Raiders. Wilson was a wunderkind, but Pryor had not shown anything in a few years and Oakland like pocket passers. It was definitely strange the way they gave him money, then just released him in favour of a UDFA rookie.

                      The timing of bringing him in (after they elevated Tolzien) does tell me they don't intend to sign him unless Wallace plays very badly (or pulls a hammy...) this week-end. If they sign him, they have to release someone, seemingly Tolzien, who would then have to clear waivers.
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                      • #26
                        Sign him. Wallace is 100 years old and a midget, if he gets hurt we have a guy worse than Gram Harrell backing him up.
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                        • #27
                          Wilson is potentially a franchise QB. Flynn is talented but he's not one of those types. Pryor was a better fit because he could scramble out of trouble and make things happen with his legs behind a brutal O-line.

                          Our line isn't great but Flynn is adept at sliding up in the pocket or getting outside and making throws. He's not going to run for 100 yards like Pryor which 85% of those are because the line broke down and/or nobody is open. Woodson would be one of their top WR if he played offense lol

                          Look, i'm not saying Flynn is a pro-bowl QB but he can help you win games in the right situation and system. in OUR system I think he could beat anyone or at least not cause you to lose against a good team. Wallace just doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Maybe I'm wrong. hopefully I am if we stick with him. There's no reason to lose the next 3 weeks or so.

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                          • #28
                            I think his elbow injury is worse than we know. He may replace Scotty T but Uncle Rico will be better after a week of practice. Can't get worse than 50% for 120y and an int. If we get a first hand assessment of his elbow and arm strength - then maybe... but why would everyone else have cut him so quickly.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                              I think his elbow injury is worse than we know. He may replace Scotty T but Uncle Rico will be better after a week of practice. Can't get worse than 50% for 120y and an int. If we get a first hand assessment of his elbow and arm strength - then maybe... but why would everyone else have cut him so quickly.
                              I sure hope they come in with a gameplan better suited to Wallace on Sunday. That should help.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                                I sure hope they come in with a gameplan better suited to Wallace on Sunday. That should help.
                                What will help more is a belief in miracles...prayer.

                                ** Seneca Wallace has managed one win as a starter in the NFL from the 2009 season to present. Overall in that period he's gone 1 W - 8 L.

                                ** In 21 starts as an NFL QB his record is 6W- 15L.

                                ** a 59.1 Completion % .... overall in his NFL career.

                                ** 31 TD and 19 Picks .... ditto.

                                ** QB Rating of 80.6 .... ditto.

                                Last edited by woodbuck27; 11-08-2013, 08:51 PM.
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