Things that will make the packers better

[bobblehead]

John Schneider is an example of somebody who has used a nice mixture of the drafting, trading, and free agency.

And steroids and HgH.

[bobblehead]

i understand what drafting is, but what are those other words?

Those other things are what desperate GM's who aren't good at drafting do to compensate.

[KYPack]

The best example that I remember is the goal line stand against NO, opening day after the SB. I watched that play over and over, it was a thing of beauty, watching the D act as one. I think you mean single-celled organism as all eleven are sharing the hive mind.

I may have meant orgasm.

[Rutnstrut]

Those other things are what desperate GM's who aren't good at drafting do to compensate.

Well then TT better get to trading and free agency, because his whole draft and develop plan ain't working for shit for defensive players. He also seems to have a knack for picking the biggest pussies in the league.

[dahammer001]

how many times over the years have we seen a cb and safety look at each other after allowing a big catch and have both guys throw their hands up in the air Too many times

[gbgary]

Things that will make the packers better

actual starters playing instead of back-ups, back-up back-ups, and practice squad players,

getting back to jamming wrs and giving our pass rush an extra second to get to the qb,

d-lineman getting their hands in the air when a pass comes out,

a more direct running attack instead of the slow-developing sideways runs,

i'm thinking...

[Smidgeon]

This is a point I tried to make in another thread. They have already cycled through guys like Underwood and Lee and phased out great players like Woodson and Collins. Many of the problems we see today have been there forever, even when Woodson and Collins were on board. The differences now are that there is no one making up for mistakes like Collins could or freelancing into impact plays like Woodson could. But, they should still be able to play competent coverages. It makes me wonder how good Whitt and Perry really are.

I brought this up in another thread, and it's been something I've at least been wondering in the back of my mind for a couple years. Too much of the same problem over and over again.

[dahammer001]

It makes me wonder how good Whitt and Perry really are. They both suck

[woodbuck27]

s.

How do you see our team's DB's matching up 'physically' Vs the pass? We don't. Using logical here if everybody is employing tall receivers then you draft bigger DB's.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81917b29/article/defensive-backs-continue-to-rise-in-prominence-draft-stature

Defensive backs continue to rise in prominence, draft stature

By Gil Brandt NFL.com NFL Media senior analyst

Published: July 12, 2010 at 08:06 p.m


" Seven defensive backs were selected in the first round of the 2010 draft and a total of 12 overall in the first two rounds, including the fifth-overall pick and the seventh-overall pick of Round 1 (Kansas City's Eric Berry at five, Cleveland's Joe Haden at seven). Very seldom do we have two defensive backs picked this high.

The feeling around the NFL is that you can never have too many good cornerbacks. The key trait for this position is speed -- speed to break on the ball and the speed to turn and run with a wide receiver.

Height is also important due to the size of wide receivers.

Because of the empty backfield, one running back and multi-receiver sets, teams feel it's important to have three cornerbacks on the field a high percentage of the time in order to match up against all the fast wide receivers in coverage. Sometimes teams will have a third (slot) corner on the field as much as 75 percent of the time. The league average is about 64 percent."

Comment woodbuck27:

Memo to Ted Thompson. Please read the above LINK.

Thank You Ted

GO PACK GO !

[Pugger]

Well then TT better get to trading and free agency, because his whole draft and develop plan ain't working for shit for defensive players. He also seems to have a knack for picking the biggest pussies in the league.

Yeah, those pussies getting hurt all the time. Its all TT's fault ya know.

[denverYooper]

Yeah, those pussies getting hurt all the time. Its all TT's fault ya know.

It keeps coming back to this. Green Bay has had an absolutely ridiculous number of injuries this year, including the most important one. If I step back and look at it reasonably, I'm surprised that they've kept the last 3 close until late in the games. The fact of it is that they just don't have the healthy horses to make the one or two impact plays that could win them one of these.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Yes, I agree, but why is it that this team always seems to have 'a ton of injuries'? Bad water in Green Bay? Football gods out to get the Packers? Or something the team is either doing or not doing? I am old...

[pbmax]

I think this team has close to a similar number of injuries as other teams looked at over a number of years.

But I bet they keep them out longer because McCarthy defers to the medical staff completely as far as we know.

[denverYooper]

I think this team has close to a similar number of injuries as other teams looked at over a number of years.

But I bet they keep them out longer because McCarthy defers to the medical staff completely as far as we know.

Are you talking about something like a 5 year average?

[pbmax]

Are you talking about something like a 5 year average?

Something like that. 2010 and this year have been terrible. 2011 and 12 were better.

I am not saying that the Packers would not be better if they had a year like the 49ers did last year in terms of health, but I suspect the number of incidents is not outrageous.