Packer/Queenie GDT

[woodbuck27]

Jolly would have been a better injury sub than Worthy for Wilson, but I thought Wilson was hanging tough.

That ILB was an injury sub and his rush straight up the gut looked like something the Packers never expected to see.

Flynn was also more effective when the pocket got small, he did not bail to a bad side and stayed calm. Allen really picked it up at the end of the game versus Back as well.

Questions:

A) What did you (anybody else) think of BJ Raji today?

B) Did the Packers 'D' look exhausted as OT progressed?

[pittstang5]

You could argue that the scheme is sound and the execution is not, and the personnel needs to change.

You could argue that the scheme is not sound, and that it does not fit the present/healthy personnel and needs to change.

What is not up for argument is the fact that we are not getting results with either the personnel and the coaching staff, and something needs to change, and will likely be parts of the coaching staff if they don't get their act together.

Aaron Rodgers does not play defense.

That's what is so confusing. The defense plays great one series than they have a huge brain fart the next, usually when you need them to step up. Then, there's the issue of tackling.

There are just so many issues with this team and it's obvious having a player like Rodgers hid those issues. Getting our asses kicked the past 4 weeks might benefit this team in the long run, ie heads might roll.

[pittstang5]

Questions:

A) What did you (anybody else) think of BJ Raji today?

B) Did the Packers 'D' look exhausted as OT progressed?

Didn't hear Raji name at all. I think he's going to have a hard time finding a team to pay him 8 mil. Plus. I wish him luck, I'd rather have Jolly. Jolly at least plays with heart.

[Teamcheez1]

Raji made one pay that I rember the entire game where he stopped a running play cold. The rest of the time he was either pushed around, shot the wrong gap, and put no pressure on the QB. He is, after all, the $8M dollar man.

The defense was already starting to wear down by the 4th quarter. The offense should have won the game on our first drive of OT (or at the end of the 4th qtr), but MM saw to it that was not going to happen.

[red]

Didn't hear Raji name at all. I think he's going to have a hard time finding a team to pay him 8 mil. Plus. I wish him luck, I'd rather have Jolly. Jolly at least plays with heart.

yup

[Bretsky]

I am probably the as big or the biggest Badger Homer on this forum so it was not a good sign when I noted right off the bat Tolzien was not the answer. Had they started Flynn right off the bat, as I suggested they do after last week, we would have probably won.

[Teamcheez1]

I am probably the as big or the biggest Badger Homer on this forum so it was not a good sign when I noted right off the bat Tolzien was not the answer. Had they started Flynn right off the bat, as I suggested they do after last week, we would have probably won.

I think a lot of us are with you on this one. I was rooting for the kid to succeed from the time we signed him, but there are just so many limitations walking onto a new team, new system, and never having really played in an NFL game. It was probably wishful thinking on our part that he would be wildly succesful.

[Freak Out]

I am probably the as big or the biggest Badger Homer on this forum so it was not a good sign when I noted right off the bat Tolzien was not the answer. Had they started Flynn right off the bat, as I suggested they do after last week, we would have probably won.

Stubby is a stubborn one.....

[pittstang5]

I think a lot of us are with you on this one. I was rooting for the kid to succeed from the time we signed him, but there are just so many limitations walking onto a new team, new system, and never having really played in an NFL game. It was probably wishful thinking on our part that he would be wildly succesful.

The guy has moxie, I'll give him that. He was off today and you knew he was going to turn it over at some point. mm just didn't give him that chance.

[woodbuck27]

Raji made one pay that I rember the entire game where he stopped a running play cold. The rest of the time he was either pushed around, shot the wrong gap, and put no pressure on the QB. He is, after all, the $8M dollar man.

The defense was already starting to wear down by the 4th quarter. The offense should have won the game on our first drive of OT (or at the end of the 4th qtr), but MM saw to it that was not going to happen.

Maybe it's me but it sure seems that MM tightens up in too many games.

It always seems to me as if he's so alone on the sidelines too. MM hiding behind his play sheet.

[woodbuck27]

The guy has moxie, I'll give him that. He was off today and you knew he was going to turn it over at some point. mm just didn't give him that chance.

MM didn't give him any reins.

[digitaldean]

Questions:

A) What did you (anybody else) think of BJ Raji today?

B) Did the Packers 'D' look exhausted as OT progressed?

Raji and most of D-Line sucked. They let a crappy Minnesota O-line push them around. Gerhart had truck-size holes to run through. Just like last week, we were slow and couldn't get off blocks. They may have been exhausted, but they let Minny march right down the field to tie the game back up in OT.

If Raji is hoping for a big payday, his play sure isn't reflecting it.

[digitaldean]

As for Flynn, FOX commentator John Lynch was dead on in his analysis, "Some guys are perfect fits for certain teams" (referring to Flynn). Flynn knows the system ran no huddle pretty well and was reasonably accurate. Tolzien was too inaccurate plus we caught a break on a totally botched defensive play from the Vikes to give us the early lead.

No brainer...if Rodgers can't play, Flynn gives us the best chance to win. Lacy got 99 yards vs. Lions. We will need him to eat up clock and keep Megatron on sidelines.

That defense though is flat out pathetic. They couldn't blitz properly, run gap penetration was horrible.

[woodbuck27]

Raji and most of D-Line sucked. They let a crappy Minnesota O-line push them around. Gerhart had truck-size holes to run through. Just like last week, we were slow and couldn't get off blocks. They may have been exhausted, but they let Minny march right down the field to tie the game back up in OT.

If Raji is hoping for a big payday, his play sure isn't reflecting it.

I can't see him back with us next season on any account.

He's simply NOT there IMO.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Flynn at least throws the ball where it belongs (including the second row at times).

As long as the ball belongs closer than 15 yards.

I think Flynn must be concealing tendinitis in his elbow or something. He looks like Darrell Bevell. And not Darrell Bevell in college, Darrell Bevell as a 43-year-old coach.