Pro football focus

[Rastak]

I'm bored so I thought I'd share some info from my PFF subscription........it's been ugly following the Vikings grades....here are some highlights and lowlights. Remember, this is a cummulative total from all games so far.....if you got a +1 for 10 games and a -10 for one game you'd be a 0.


The number one Packer player on offense this year cumulative is Josh Sitton. Surprised how low they've graded Bakhitari. They also have Hawk rated a s a piece of shit. I added a few Vikings at the bottom for comparison....



Offense

Sitton - +19.9
Rodgers - +18
Nelson - +15.7
Lacy - +11.9
Kuhn - +8.9
Cobb - +6.6
EDS - +6.3
Lang - +6.3
Boykin - +3.7
Starks - +2.1
J Jones - +0.8
Ross - +0.4
Tolzien - +0.1
Stoneburner - 0
Sherrod - -0.3
Franklin - -0.4
L Taylor - -0.7
Wallace - -1.6
M White - -1.7
Flynn - -2.6
Finley - -2.8
Barclay - -3.8
Bostick - -3.8
R Taylor - -5.0
Quarless - -6.9
Newhouse - -9.7
Bakhiari - -12.0


Defense

Daniels - +16.2
T Williams - +6.2
Lattimore - +5.1
Pickett - +3.9
Hayward - +1
Matthews - +0.4
Jones - 0
Richardson - -0.2
Worthy - -0.2
Perry - -0.4
Bush - -0.5
Wilson - -0.7
Shields - -0.7
Boyd - -1.7
Francois - -2.0
Banjo - -2.0
House - -2.2
Burnett - -2.4
Hyde - -2.4
Jennings - -4.4
Jolly - -5.8
Mulumba - -7.2
D Jones - -7.8
Palmer - -7.9
Neal - -8.6
McMillian - -10.5
Raji - -10.8
Hawk - -14.6


Random Viking ratings....

Off
Ponder - -10.9
G Jennings - -1.2
A Peterson - +11.1
M Kahlil - -4.9


Def
Greenway - -21.7
J Robinson - -8.8
lots more bad guys.....

[woodbuck27]

Isn't that uplifting.

Ted !?

[Bossman641]

Has greenway really been that poor?

[denverYooper]

Thanks Ras.

Looks like Sitton's one of the only ones who's allowed to be talking. I think one of the beat writers also mentioned he was probably an elite guard at this point.

[denverYooper]

Lol. They've always had it in for Raji, too.

I always thought they were harsh on him because of his assignments at times, but he was getting blown off the ball by Detroit's double teams a few times that I checked in on Thursday.

[denverYooper]

IIRC, Bahk has had 2 bad games (Cincy + Detroit) and a bunch of average ones, so his cumulative grade is not a surprise. He's faced a lot of good DEs this year.

[Smeefers]

I find it absolutely mind blowing that the interior of our line is graded out so well. There were times in the Detroit game where it looked like flynn was going to hand one off to the defensive guy just wandering through our line like it was held up by a bunch of blind, geriatric ballet dancers.

[Rastak]

Has greenway really been that poor?

He hasn't made big plays like he has in the past but he hasn't looked like one of the worst linebackers in the league.

[Pugger]

I find it absolutely mind blowing that the interior of our line is graded out so well. There were times in the Detroit game where it looked like flynn was going to hand one off to the defensive guy just wandering through our line like it was held up by a bunch of blind, geriatric ballet dancers.

Our line on Thursday was all jumbled up because EDS left. The real horror show was Newhouse at RG.

[Pugger]

I guess Pro Football Focus forgot we have this guy who wears #12.

[red]

So, statistical proof our defense sucks

Im shocked tramon grades so high. I guess you cant get a negative score for covering people if you dont actually cover them because you ran into your teammate

[Pugger]

Tramon hasn't been as terrible the last few games. That one play against Philly I blame Burnett.

[Guiness]

Our line on Thursday was all jumbled up because EDS left. The real horror show was Newhouse at RG.

I still haven't figured that one out. Reports were that he didn't practice there, last time EDS went down and they slid Lang to tackle, Barclay went to guard and Newhouse played RT. I guess the idea was less shuffling of the line, but you'd think they would try that scenario out in practice first?

[woodbuck27]

I still haven't figured that one out. Reports were that he didn't practice there, last time EDS went down and they slid Lang to tackle, Barclay went to guard and Newhouse played RT. I guess the idea was less shuffling of the line, but you'd think they would try that scenario out in practice first?

What about some plan to get Derek Sherrod into the game at some time?

So much went on after EDS was knocked out it was hard to keep up with it all. You had to be focused on position and number....each snap.

I noted that these less experienced fellas played after EDS went down and Marshal Newhouse looked simply defeated:

G Lane Taylor played some and T (RT) Derek Sherrod was in late in the 4th Qtr. for 6 snaps.

[packrulz]

Hawk sucks, I agree. Half the time he's getting knocked off his feet and his helmet flies off. He looks like a clown out there.