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[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I have to give Hawk some credit as he has played better this year, but it looks like he will never be better than just an average linebacker and we desperately need a stud at his position. Ted needs to do something his dna is not coded for and start to look at FA to rebuild this team before we lose the benefit of having such a great quarterback.

[bobblehead]

I have to give Hawk some credit as he has played better this year, but it looks like he will never be better than just an average linebacker and we desperately need a stud at his position. Ted needs to do something his dna is not coded for and start to look at FA to rebuild this team before we lose the benefit of having such a great quarterback.

I actually grade him as consistent, but BELOW average. He doesn't stand up blockers...ever. He doesn't get off blockers...ever. He consistently makes tackles 5 yards down field. On the rare occasion he makes a play, he f's it up the next play.

[Smidgeon]

I don't get those scores. I know Lacy is good, but grading out better than AP? That I don't get.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I don't get those scores. I know Lacy is good, but grading out better than AP? That I don't get.

Proof that numbers lie.

[pbmax]

I find it absolutely mind blowing that the interior of our line is graded out so well. There were times in the Detroit game where it looked like flynn was going to hand one off to the defensive guy just wandering through our line like it was held up by a bunch of blind, geriatric ballet dancers.

It was worse with Lang at center. Harder to parse Ras's data with that in mind.

[pbmax]

Proof that numbers lie.

The numbers are grades for a situation. The better player does not always succeed even when making a great play. Think Barry Sanders making two ankle breaking moves to gain 2 versus Emmitt Smith gaining 6 on first down and not being touched for the 4th yard.

[woodbuck27]

Hawk sucks, I agree. Half the time he's getting knocked off his feet and his helmet flies off. He looks like a clown out there.

AJ Hawk sucks. There is a lot that would offer an argument otherwise. AJ Hawk at least trys and he does I imagine (without checking) lead the Packers in tackling. If that's the TRUTH then what does AJ Hawk sucking say about every other Packer on defense?

So AJ Hawk sucks ! I won't argue that. I'll simply point this fact out.

Compared to a man that's been rumored to have turned down an $8 Million$ offer from TT or BJ Raji. AJ Hawk doesn't suck as bad as BJ Raji SUCKS !

If they rolled a big turd onto the field and parked it on our DL.

That move 'if acceptable by NFL rules' would be more effective than what BJ Raji offers the defense.

BJ Raji decribes what it really means in terms of ... HE SUCKS ! I don't even use such terms to describe a human being. I'm by far generally more kind/compassionate but this piece of crap really bugs me.

I mean he dives ... gets stood up...falls down too much...gets buried and comes up gasping for air. He looks like a fricken Prima Donna with his non tackling hands on his hips as his best pose. BJ Raji sucks as the worst Big Man we have on our DL. He's on some other planet by far in terms of time during most of a game. When I focus on his play it's unimaginable to me that some Packer fans see value in him.

Please.... don't come back to me posting that BJ Raji is anything that Ted Thompson needs to retain. He's already left Green Bay. Please don't get started on that with me because his play makes me sick ... B. J. Raji flat out SUCKS and is a huge disappointment to me in terms of his draft status.

GO PACK GO !

[Rutnstrut]

Hawk sucks, I agree. Half the time he's getting knocked off his feet and his helmet flies off. He looks like a clown out there.

If the rest of this shitty team played with half the heart that Hawk or Jolly do, they wouldn't have so many losses. Same goes for the uninspired coaching staff.

[Rutnstrut]

AJ Hawk sucks. There is a lot that would offer an argument otherwise. AJ Hawk at least trys and he does I imagine (without checking) lead the Packers in tackling. If that's the TRUTH then what does AJ Hawk sucking say about every other Packer on defense?

So AJ Hawk sucks ! I won't argue that. I'll simply point this fact out.

Compared to a man that's been rumored to have turned down an $8 Million$ offer from TT or BJ Raji. AJ Hawk doesn't suck as bad as BJ Raji SUCKS !

If they rolled a big turd onto the field and parked it on our DL.

That move 'if acceptable by NFL rules' would be more effective than what BJ Raji offers the defense.

BJ Raji decribes what it really means in terms of ... HE SUCKS ! I don't even use such terms to describe a human being. I'm by far generally more kind/compassionate but this piece of crap really bugs me.

I mean he dives ... gets stood up...falls down too much...gets buried and comes up gasping for air. He looks like a fricken Prima Donna with his non tackling hands on his hips as his best pose. BJ Raji sucks as the worst Big Man we have on our DL. He's on some other planet by far in terms of time during most of a game. When I focus on his play it's unimaginable to me that some Packer fans see value in him.

Please.... don't come back to me posting that BJ Raji is anything that Ted Thompson needs to retain. He's already left Green Bay. Please don't get started on that with me because his play makes me sick ... B. J. Raji flat out SUCKS and is a huge disappointment to me in terms of his draft status.

GO PACK GO !

Great post, agree 100%.

[woodbuck27]

Great post, agree 100%.

For a compariason to any here that can relate to baseball.

If BJ Raji is Ted Thompson's choice of a bat.

Ted will hit about .225 with 12 HRS and 42 RBI's. That bat will often splinter.. or sting his hands.

That bat is defective. It's certainly not loaded with cork.

[denverYooper]

Despite the slightly below average grade for Q, PFF has him as the second most effective pass blocking TE:

Pro Football Focus @PFF 17m
Best Pass Blocking Efficiency, TEs:
100.0 L.Smith BUF (0press/38snaps)
98.4 A.Quarless GB
98.3 K.Rudolph MIN
98.1 Kendricks STL & Hanna DAL

[woodbuck27]

Despite the slightly below average grade for Q, PFF has him as the second most effective pass blocking TE:

Pro Football Focus @PFF 17m
Best Pass Blocking Efficiency, TEs:
100.0 L.Smith BUF (0press/38snaps)
98.4 A.Quarless GB
98.3 K.Rudolph MIN
98.1 Kendricks STL & Hanna DAL

Thanks.

Do you have a subscription for PFF?

For specific member ?'s If you would agree to such!?

[denverYooper]

Thanks.

Do you have a subscription for PFF?

For specific member ?'s If you would agree to such!?

I don't, I grabbed it from twitter. They sometimes tweet out top 5 stats for different things.

[woodbuck27]

I don't, I grabbed it from twitter. They sometimes tweet out top 5 stats for different things.

OK

Thank You.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The numbers are grades for a situation. The better player does not always succeed even when making a great play. Think Barry Sanders making two ankle breaking moves to gain 2 versus Emmitt Smith gaining 6 on first down and not being touched for the 4th yard.

Good analogy, that helps.