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  • #16
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    He strikes me as the kind of reporter who takes other punditry, tosses it into the air and makes pundit salad. He seems to follow no rhyme nor reason in developing his opinion, its all a hodge podge of common football tropes with no trace of independent analysis. I will be completely honest here, I have heard him more than read him as he is a regular on the Packer pre game broadcast. He often makes NO sense and contradicts himself.

    There is a good example of pundit salad in the article wood buck links to. He argues that McCarthy cannot take a knee with 4 seconds left in the half if he wants to deliver a message at halftime about being aggressive on offense. Send a message to your team is a vastly overrated reason to do something, since you should be trying to put the team in a position to win. If this is anything but blather, you need something from McCarthy about how he believes this. He has chosen to protect his defense before*, so sending a negative message isn't a non-starter for him.

    Most coaches under a certain time will take a knee there, regardless of message sending. McCarthy loves to double up over halftime, but he better have a heck of an explanation how a run is going to help him score with 4 seconds left or it was meaningless. Ketchman provides none of this, though to be fair he is referring to other material so he might have had more on this elsewhere.


    *The penalty on 3rd down in the red zone that he declined to force fourth and short.
    As always, well thought out.

    I don't have the benefit of listening to him so your points are well taken.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
      Fair enough. I don't listen to him, so I just read his column, so intonation, etc, is lost on me. Strangely, inside my head, his voice sounds like Fred Rodgers.
      Ohh Dear your missing out George Cumby ...catch Vic and all his style on Packers.Com...You'll see Vic at the gift shop..in the atrium...in the Pacckers locker room...in a hallway...on the balcony...

      NO you won't see Vic in TT's office.

      Nobody knows ..... where that is.
      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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      • #18
        I like Vic, and I think he's joking there. He's exaggerating to stir people up a little. Most people don't care. They just want a solid opinion and he has one. Other people are more concerned about having their particular opinion supported or at least challenged softly as to not threaten their fragile egos. Those people do not like Vic
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
          I like Vic, and I think he's joking there. He's exaggerating to stir people up a little. Most people don't care. They just want a solid opinion and he has one. Other people are more concerned about having their particular opinion supported or at least challenged softly as to not threaten their fragile egos. Those people do not like Vic
          No JH.

          He lost it on this occasion but who doesn't. The thing is this is Vic Ketchman and in an important position at Packers.com.

          The thing is apologize when you lose it and your in such a position of trust and deemed strength. How hard should it be for him to take the high road?
          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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