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  • #31
    Originally posted by TravisWilliams23 View Post
    Just tweek the rule to state "all turnovers or POTENTIAL turnovers" will be reviewed by the booth in the final 2 minutes. Even if a team gets a play off before they decide to review, it should be allowed to be looked at and corrected after such review.
    Turnovers are automatically reviewed and the next play can't start until the call is confirmed or the ref goes under the hood. Potential TO's are checked, but if the next play starts before the booth calls for a review, then that's it. The real issues is why it took to the last second, or perhaps a little longer, to get that buzz from the booth. They should have decided quickly that this play needed looking at.

    Yes the ref missed the call on the field, but from his angle it could well have looked like the ball touched the ground. He gets paid to make that call correctly, but perception in this case is tricky, especially if the ball moved when it was caught in a way that looked a lot like a ball hitting the ground.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by TravisWilliams23 View Post
      http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...g-interception

      There might be a commercial at the beginning of the clip. If so, just keep watching.
      That about covers it and I believe I see it here better than I might have on my recording.

      The Official standing ever so close ( what? ... six feet away) and waving the Romo pass as an incompletion...how does he make that call ? That's simply too outrageous or hard for me to imagine if I hadn't seen it.

      Something has to be done about NFL Officiating. It's been one of my worst observations this season for some reason.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
        Turnovers are automatically reviewed and the next play can't start until the call is confirmed or the ref goes under the hood. Potential TO's are checked, but if the next play starts before the booth calls for a review, then that's it. The real issues is why it took to the last second, or perhaps a little longer, to get that buzz from the booth. They should have decided quickly that this play needed looking at.

        Yes the ref missed the call on the field, but from his angle it could well have looked like the ball touched the ground. He gets paid to make that call correctly, but perception in this case is tricky, especially if the ball moved when it was caught in a way that looked a lot like a ball hitting the ground.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
          That about covers it and I believe I see it here better than I might have on my recording.

          The Official standing ever so close ( what? ... six feet away) and waving the Romo pass as an incompletion...how does he make that call ? That's simply too outrageous or hard for me to imagine if I hadn't seen it.

          Something has to be done about NFL Officiating. It's been one of my worst observations this season for some reason.
          From the angle the ref was to the catch, it was extremely difficult to tell if the ball hit the ground. Depth perception isn't precise enough to determine 2-3" at 10' straight on. I'm guessing he really saw something that looked like the ball hitting the ground when it was really T-Will catching it. However, given the game situation and the automatic checking by the booth on all TO's, the safest thing to do would be to call it a pick and let the replay sort it out.
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          • #35
            this just adds on to (without a doubt) one of the worst years of refereeing the NFL has ever seen. It's horseshit calls and miscalls from one end to the other, and from what i'm seeing it's not necessarily targeting or helping any specific team (although i don't follow other games like the Packers games)......they are just horrible this year.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jimx29 View Post
              this just adds on to (without a doubt) one of the worst years of refereeing the NFL has ever seen. It's horseshit calls and miscalls from one end to the other, and from what i'm seeing it's not necessarily targeting or helping any specific team (although i don't follow other games like the Packers games)......they are just horrible this year.
              refs need to figure out what leading with the head is. all the fines that come out every week for players leading with the head, and most of those hits aren't flagged

              if a ref misses something or screws something up, then there needs to be repercussions. fine the refs or suspend them until they figure things out

              hell, how does jeff triplette even have a job after the last two weeks he had? last week he had one of the worst calls in nfl history, right up there with the fail mary

              i agree the refs have been horrid this season, but nothing is gonna fix it until the refs start getting disciplined for fucking things up

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              • #37
                That game was wretchedly called most of the day. In fairness, they could have called PI on us a few times that they let slide. But Coleman, in my book, is on the same level as Triplette and Jerome Boger....flat out horrible. Missing Free's false start on Dallas' last TD drive gave them a 1st down on 3rd and 5. Daniels was held pretty much the whole game and never got called. TWill's 1st INT that was overturned was a screw job too.

                The topper is when a ref is right within a few feet of the play, with no obstruction, and STILL botches it. Glad MM took initiative to call a TO. His quote after game was that he didn't want to lose the game on a technicality. This may not fix all the ills, but was reading that they are considering taking the replays out of the stadiums and having it in NYC. Sort of like what the NHL does with the replay center in Toronto.
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