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  • #31
    Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Go find someone else to bother. You asked a question and I responded with an actual answer. Yes, a smart ass wisecrack but an honest answer none the less.

    BTW .... You will never run me off this site. If you don't like it .... you can take a hike.
    "Yes, a smart ass wisecrack" ThunderDan is an honest young man.

    Jeee I'm a poet.

    Hey relax. We need members here and certainly no one run off or running off ...ThunderDan.

    I'm on your side.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #32
      I agree, you both should stay and fight. Wars always get great ratings.

      But fuck garrett, Romo fucked up at the end but who decided to not run the ball in the second half and kill time? He might want to look in the mirror.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        Wow, looked like Garrett was covering his ass and tossing his QB under the bus. There were former players talking about this this morning on the NFLN on their morning show and those players said when a coach does that a player can never trust that coach again. Things must be fun in the girls' locker room these days.
        Yes Garrett has to do some major damage control but that isn't going to matter if Dallas doesn't win their division. He should have first ensured his locker room. Let the owners attitude towords him run it's course through the players success on the field.

        A) HC + B) Players = C (success or not) = contract (extension or not).

        JJ said a couple of weeks ago that Garrett's job was safe for next season. One might 'only' assume that's the case taking that JJ expects the Cowboys to make the playoffs or all bets are reasonably off.
        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          Bad argument. Philly game I think it was, Packer TOP was way way higher than Phily's, but defense sucked ass. Not the QB. Second guessing easy.
          I don't think it's a bad argument. Flynn was available before Rodgers went down. The argument is that between the Bears, Eagles, and Giants game Flynn leads us to just ONE victory. And we don't tie the Vikings if Flynn plays the whole game. I don't think either of those are far fetched arguments. We might very well lose every game we lost and still tie the Vikings, but I doubt it.

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          • #35
            You're assuming Fynn out of the gate woulda been better than Tolzien, whom we mostly praised in hi first two appearances.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              Bad argument. Philly game I think it was, Packer TOP was way way higher than Phily's, but defense sucked ass. Not the QB. Second guessing easy.
              The Philly game was a breakdown in the secondary. Lots of long passes, otherwise the front had their run game bottled up.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                Bad argument. Philly game I think it was, Packer TOP was way way higher than Phily's, but defense sucked ass. Not the QB. Second guessing easy.
                a 10-14 point turn around in that game was exclusively the fault of the QB. Usually, that's a backbreaker even with an excellent QB. protecting against the TO is huge. Take the three INTs in that game and turn them into sacks, and you probably win that game.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife 2m
                  #Packers MD Jennings - 32/72 snaps snaps.. Defensive totals when on field: Rushing (11 carries-94yds) Passing (13/19, 156yds, 2TDs)

                  Ben Fennell ‏@TheXOsOfLife 2m
                  #Packers Sean Richardson-40/72 snaps snaps..Def. totals when onfield: Rushing (7 carries-40yds,TD) Passing (16/29, 202yds, 3INTs, 2 Sacks)
                  Now, I am king of dismissing "stats" because they can be manipulated and misrepresented in so many ways (like the color coding for no reason whatsoever in Crustys temperature chart), but these numbers are pretty damning and straightforward.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                    Was talking to my dad about exactly this last night and came to the same conclusion. The Packers would very likely be 9-5 if we didn't drag our feet on Matt Flynn when he became available. Very big misstep by TT in this regard.
                    So the proper course of action wasn't to keep the 2 QB's we had working in our system for the previous 8 weeks, but to go out and sign a guy who would be making more than both of them combined and hadn't worked in our system in years, and wasn't familiar with the players or any tweaks we have made to the system in years, and I'm not even sure he cleared waivers. Did Buffalo pick him up on waivers? (does the NFL work that way?)

                    We also get to automatically pencil in wins for games we lost because we are certain the result would have changed. Also, we were to magically know that Wallace would get hurt and we would desperately need someone else. Also, we were to know that Flynn would be successful and that Seattle and Oakland didn't have a clue (both teams run by guys who had flynn in GB and knew him then and now.)

                    I guess I also should have asked sally McClain to prom because we would have 2 awesome kids by now and I would have inherited her dad's millions. This second guessing game is easy.

                    I have another what if. What if we had brought flynn in right away and, like in buffalo, he still wasn't motivated to film study and he shit the bed with us and we wouldn't be in first place NOW. Yea, how about that, TT's course of action has us in first place, but he sucks because we should be in first by MORE.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #40
                      Second place

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                        Rich kid .... smart ass attitude. Take a hike please.

                        See post #19 of this thread for some real help.
                        Woody, he wasn't being smart ass. Post 14 was actually a paste of a tweat. You asked for an example and he was showing you.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                          I agree, you both should stay and fight. Wars always get great ratings.

                          But fuck garrett, Romo fucked up at the end but who decided to not run the ball in the second half and kill time? He might want to look in the mirror.
                          In fairness as aikman was hammering them for not running all I could think of is all the packer fans that would wig out if MM were in the exact situation running the ball and turning a blowout into a small win. They would all be screaming "playing not too lose" "playing too tight" "go for the throat".
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                            a 10-14 point turn around in that game was exclusively the fault of the QB. Usually, that's a backbreaker even with an excellent QB. protecting against the TO is huge. Take the three INTs in that game and turn them into sacks, and you probably win that game.
                            You also have to take away the perfection in long passes from that game. MM said he had never had a QB grade out 7/7 in deep routes before (or something like that).
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                              Second place
                              My bad...Controlling our own destiny then.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #45
                                Randall Liu ‏@RLiuNFL 4m
                                NFC Offensive Player of Week 15: @Packers RB Eddie Lacy (@Lil_Eazy_Ana_42). 1st career Player of Week Award
                                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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