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  • #91
    Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
    Then they would have thrown the ball, probably to M. Bennett.
    Quite likely, and through your prescription med drug addled brain you might recall we saw that on the Bears 4th quarter TD, throwing the ball the Marshall after 5 consecutive Matt Forte touches. Still, with Forte at 100 yards for the day, I think the pessimistic rat is correct that a 2-4 alignment is not the way to roll on goal to go from the 1.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      Quite likely, and through your prescription med drug addled brain you might recall we saw that on the Bears 4th quarter TD, throwing the ball the Marshall after 5 consecutive Matt Forte touches. Still, with Forte at 100 yards for the day, I think the pessimistic rat is correct that a 2-4 alignment is not the way to roll on goal to go from the 1.
      If the 4 are Perry, Hawk, Lattimore and Mulumba, you are going to get run over. I see your point, even through my cataracts.

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      • #93
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #94
          Everyone is making great points, but they all say the same thing essentially. Which is, fire Capers, he obviously can't change or won't.

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          • #95
            Hard to argue that one. Personnel be damned, there isn't enough space to be worried about LB coverage versus an extra DB.

            However, it would help if the line and OLBs would play it straight and no all immediately head for the ball. That is why he had a cutback lane.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #96
              Mulumba has allowed Bennet to dive at his feet but instead of redirecting him or shedding him, he retreats into Burnett's gap. Burnett jumps up into his gap. Everyone else is headed into the backfield.

              Its not a failure of 2-4 versus 3-3, its a failure to understand your assignment. You play this way in 3-3 the result is the same.




              That same scenario has repeated itself endlessly, especially against Adrian Peterson. The problem here is not stoutness in the interior (which has been problematic). Its that the run defenders don't understand the importance of their gap responsibilities.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Hard to argue that one. Personnel be damned, there isn't enough space to be worried about LB coverage versus an extra DB.

                However, it would help if the line and OLBs would play it straight and no all immediately head for the ball. That is why he had a cutback lane.
                Sort of reminds you of the Lacy TD, doesn't it?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post

                  Its not a failure of 2-4 versus 3-3, its a failure to understand your assignment. You play this way in 3-3 the result is the same. That same scenario has repeated itself endlessly, especially against Adrian Peterson. The problem here is not stoutness in the interior (which has been problematic). Its that the run defenders don't understand the importance of their gap responsibilities.
                  Block and Tackle, Block and Tackle. Gentlemen, most games are won or lost on the proper/improper application of these two basic principles.

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                  • #99
                    Clefty watched the NFL Network "life of Lombardi" program (part1). John Madden described going to an all-day conference where Lombardi was to teach offense. Madden thought he knew it all, but Lombardi spent an entire 8 hours just on the sweep. Madden afterwards: "I realized I knew nothing about football." Lombardi taught that play and his players practiced it until they couldn't stand it anymore.

                    Football, like all disciplines depends on the effective conveyance of knowledge, through that most ancient of professions, teaching. Packers need to teach gap assignment like Lombardi.

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                    • Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                      If the 4 are Perry, Hawk, Lattimore and Mulumba, you are going to get run over. I see your point, even through my cataracts.
                      I'd recommend laser surgery but I suspect the fear is that the proximity to the power source may cause other non-original body parts to malfunction.
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                      • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                        I'd recommend laser surgery but I suspect the fear is that the proximity to the power source may cause other non-original body parts to malfunction.
                        More likely, it will re-vitalize them. Clefty's body is like the Packer roster - much of it is on IR.

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                        • Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                          Sort of reminds you of the Lacy TD, doesn't it?
                          Absolutely. Its an art form to know when to abandon your primary responsibility, but that is why you study tape. Mulumba is too young perhaps to know this. But the rest of the D does it too. That's the part that worries me about coaching.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Capers is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Here is the 3-4 base giving up Forte's long reception because of a breakdown in coverage. Hawk and Lattimore retreat deep into middle and Perry follows the TE. My guess is that Perry has played it wrong or missed an adjustment. There is no one else anywhere near the flat on a 1st and 10 play.

                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Absolutely. Its an art form to know when to abandon your primary responsibility, but that is why you study tape. Mulumba is too young perhaps to know this. But the rest of the D does it too. That's the part that worries me about coaching.
                              In part it could be the inevitable consequence of a youthful roster.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Capers is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Here is the 3-4 base giving up Forte's long reception because of a breakdown in coverage. Hawk and Lattimore retreat deep into middle and Perry follows the TE. My guess is that Perry has played it wrong or missed an adjustment. There is no one else anywhere near the flat on a 1st and 10 play.
                                I recall that play, and thinking that the 2010 version would have defended it better 1) because they were more veteran with Woodson and Collins and 2) This Bears team has four legitimate offensive weapons and it's hard to account for them on every play.

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