Official 49er Playoff Week Discussion Thread

[Bretsky]

The weather needs to be TERRIBLE to give GB a better shot to win

[denverYooper]

Status of Carlos Rodgers is uncertain, the 49ers might start Eazy E over the slot: Veteran Wright ready to step in wherever he's needed

Wright could play almost the entire game at the nickel position with Carlos Rogers questionable and the Packers' affinity for three-receiver formations. Wright would be matched often against Green Bay slot receiver Randall Cobb.

[pbmax]

Easy E is Edgar Winter, right?

[red]

weather underground is saying that the temp at kickoff will be 3 above zero

[pbmax]

You know, we still need a name for the Boykin fumble recovery and TD.

StripSackFumbleDown?

JuliusPepperAndTenIneffectives?

[pbmax]

weather underground is saying that the temp at kickoff will be 3 above zero

I love that site (use their app on my phone) but their forecasts are occasionally goofy. Weather.com is consistently wrong by a few degrees. What do the TV stations say?

Holy crap. WBAY says Hi 10 F, Lo -16 F, Blustery and cold. Flurries possible.

[gbgary]

I love that site (use their app on my phone) but their forecasts are occasionally goofy. Weather.com is consistently wrong by a few degrees. What do the TV stations say?

Holy crap. WBAY says Hi 10 F, Lo -16 F, Blustery and cold. Flurries possible.

still several days out to be accurate. hopefully it's wrong. either way this game is icing on the cake. the season was made last weekend.

[bobblehead]

You know, we still need a name for the Boykin fumble recovery and TD.

StripSackFumbleDown?

JuliusPepperAndTenIneffectives?

If a packer fumbles in the open woods would a bear jump on it

[wist43]

I think this is Dom's fourth chance at the Niners in past couple years. We studied their offense all off season in order to make sure they didn't light us up on the run.

The net results were Kapernick having over 400 passing yards, in part because we sold out on the run.

We're just not strong enough up front. I think we're going to get kicked around.

Terrible weather can be an equalizer. I think we need to cheer for terrible weather and the game somehow staying close.

Which is why I wanted Brandon Williams in the draft. Baltimore took him, but he's been banged up all year, didn't play much. Still think he's a hell of a player though.

Capers thinks he can stop the run with 2 DL on the field, and apparently he's convinced TT and MM that is the way to go. We play more 2-4 than any team in the league, and get consistently pushed around at the LOS as a result. I don't care how you argue it, Brad Jones simply isn't going to be able to stuff an OG the way a player of Brandon Williams size could.

It could be argued that it is a wash if we were stellar on the back end, and had one of the best pass defenses in the league, but we don't do that well either. We don't generate consistent pressure, and we have far too many breakdowns on the second level and in the secondary.

That all has to come to rest at Capers doorstep - yet he never seems to be held accountable, and he certainly doesn't make changes. It's frustrating and mindnumbing to watch.

Hopefully the 4th time is the charm, and we can hold them to 24 pts or less, and less than 400 yds of offense, but I doubt it. Capers has a track record of doing the same thing over and over again - and poor results don't seem to bother him.

I guess he figures he's got all of January-August to look at film and convince himself he was right all along.

[mraynrand]

I usually just go with 'duckhead.'

Kick his ass!

[mraynrand]

Capers thinks he can stop the run with 2 DL on the field,

So if Perry and Neal are not LBs, when they are on the field with "2 linemen" are they linemen or misplaced LBs?? Why mention Brad Jones as part of the 2-4, when the OLBs/DL-turned-LBs are really the issue (not that I'm saying Jones is any good, but he's an ILB, which is irrelevant to the 2-4 lineman debate)

[wist43]

So if Perry and Neal are not LBs, when they are on the field with "2 linemen" are they linemen or misplaced LBs?? Why mention Brad Jones as part of the 2-4, when the OLBs/DL-turned-LBs are really the issue (not that I'm saying Jones is any good, but he's an ILB, which is irrelevant to the 2-4 lineman debate)

In that alignment, they are misplaced LB's. 2nd and 6?? They are misplaced LB's. 1st and goal from the 1?? Misplaced LB's.

The issue is not being able to negate or control the interior line. We have one 2-gap DL on the roster, although some argue that CJ Wilson is a decent 2-gapper. He can 2-gap from the DE position, but not inside.

And then in pass rushing situations you could go with a 3 man line of D. Jones, Raji, and Daniels - combined with Neal and Perry rushing from the outside. If Matthews is healthy, bring Matthews from ROLB, allow Neal to roam, and bring Perry from LOLB. Jones and Daniels are both nimble enough to zone blitz, you could mix and match a good number of rush/blitz combinations with that personnel grouping.

With the way Capers approaches it, he has 2 DL inside, and Neal and Perry on the outside - it's more often than not a 4 man rush, and in run/pass sitiations, Neal and Perry are standing up and not in position to anchor at all. The downside is literally endless.

And so it goes, our defense is pathetic - pretty much everyone agrees on that. You seem to be okay with it though - as is Dom, MM, and TT apparently.

[pbmax]

There is no way the Packers could support the 3 LB alignment you describe against the pass. The middle of the field would be wide open. The safeties would not hold up. That 3rd DL would have to provide super human improvement to the pass rush and that guy isn't on the roster this year.

The problem is that the Packers are not good enough in base to defend the 3rd receiver OR a RB out of the backfield with a LB. In nickel or dime they are not good enough to shut down a running game, pass rush and defend deep with the same personnel. So the O can simply choose what they wish to attack based on Packer personnel if they feel its advantageous.

You may very well see a 3rd DL in some passing downs (esp against the 49ers) but you will see too many completed passes.

Its not the alignment or sub package. Its these players, in this scheme.

Now could a different scheme match them better? I am willing to entertain that thought about the OLBs/DL and maybe the ILBs. But not the backend, especially not the safeties.

Could someone else go mad scientist and cover up the flaws? Short term yes, but eventually the film would reveal the scam.

They need health, better personnel (Jones will help as a second year player) and Capers might have to break up the scheme if through attrition the players no longer fit. The playoffs may be interesting this year, their play has picked up lately but not enough yet.

[MJZiggy]

If a packer fumbles in the open woods would a bear jump on it

Apparently not...

[deake]

still several days out to be accurate. hopefully it's wrong. either way this game is icing on the cake. the season was made last weekend.

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