Packers FA watch

[smuggler]

Don't be surprised if the Packers show EDS the door. He wouldn't be too expensive to retain, but evidently they REALLY like Tretter and will probably try and fill a backup center spot in the draft.

Also, if anybody actually antes up for EDS, we're in line for a comp pick, and we all know how TT feels about those comp picks.

[Patler]

Don't be surprised if the Packers show EDS the door. He wouldn't be too expensive to retain, but evidently they REALLY like Tretter and will probably try and fill a backup center spot in the draft.

Also, if anybody actually antes up for EDS, we're in line for a comp pick, and we all know how TT feels about those comp picks.

Agreed. Larry McCarren and Mike Trgovac have been impressed with Tretter.

Good size, intelligent, strong, good lateral movement, enthusiastic about the position; seems to have a lot going for him.:



http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...234857661.html

"He's got a long way to go but I like what I've seen so far," said Larry McCarren, the team's starting center from 1974-'84 who is permitted to watch every practice in full in his role as analyst on the Packers' radio network.

"He looks like a natural knee bender, and that's where your power comes from. He seems to be technique-orientated; he's not all over the place. He's detail-orientated.
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"These past three weeks were big," said Tretter. "It was three weeks we weren't sure I was going to get. Whatever happens Tuesday, I'll be able to carry this and learn from it."

Tretter, 6 feet 3½ inches and 296 pounds, weighed 307 at the combine in February after playing two seasons at tight end and two at left tackle for Cornell. He put up 29 reps on the bench press and scored 33 on the Wonderlic intelligence test, numbers that will help him at center.

"I like it," he said. "It's a new position so I'm learning all the tricks of the trade. I think it's going well."

"I'll train and get bigger, faster, stronger," he said. "I feel like I'm strong compared to the rest of the rookie class. I don't see myself as less strong than any other person out here."

Mike Trgovac, who coaches the defensive line, took notice of Tretter in May.

"He looks like he can really fit into this scheme," said Trgovac. "I've seen him do some things where I said, 'Wow. He's going to be a good offensive lineman.'"

Tretter can run, too. His 40-yard dash time of 5.04 seconds compared favorably to draft year times of 5.17 for Dietrich-Smith, 5.18 for Josh Sitton and 5.21 for Lang.

"I think one of my major strengths is I'm able to move side-to-side," said Tretter. "Those movements are a little different than tackle movements. That all will come in time.

"You have to be a pro every step of the way. Not just on the field, but be a pro in the weight room, meetings, when you're alone and studying. You have to be locked in at all times if you really want to make that next step and be great."

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[mraynrand]

"I'll train and get bigger, faster, stronger,"

Damn, he's got the company line down pat, too. The Packers can rebuild him!

[bobblehead]

Agreed. Larry McCarren and Mike Trgovac have been impressed with Tretter.

Good size, intelligent, strong, good lateral movement, enthusiastic about the position; seems to have a lot going for him.:



http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...234857661.html

I liked those quotes. Good stuff. I would say that his lateral movement was for shit all season long though.

[Bretsky]

No, says everyone that claims TT never signs FA's.

I gave and still give TT for his attempt at signing quality free agents in Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett. So never is a rough word. But it's been a while.

[Joemailman]

Agreed. Larry McCarren and Mike Trgovac have been impressed with Tretter.

Good size, intelligent, strong, good lateral movement, enthusiastic about the position; seems to have a lot going for him.:



http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...234857661.html

EDS has sounded to me like he doesn't expect to be back. The optimist in me thinks that's because he's seen Tretter play.

[Bretsky]

EDS has sounded to me like he doesn't expect to be back. The optimist in me thinks that's because he's seen Tretter play.

In this offense I don't think you pay a Center big bucks unless he's truly elite and you drafted him from day one. EDS is fine but if he's going to get the big bucks I'd let him go as well

[woodbuck27]

Career Stats 
SEASON	TEAM	G	GS	TOT	SOL	AST	SCK	SFTY	PDEF	INT	YDS	AVG	LNG	TDS	FF	FR
2013	GB	16	16	17	12	5	0.0	--	0	--	--	--	--	--	0	--
2012	GB	14	14	26	16	10	0.0	--	2	--	--	--	--	--	0	--
2011	GB	16	16	22	14	8	3.0	0	2	--	--	--	--	--	0	1
2010	GB	16	16	39	29	10	6.5	--	3	--	--	--	--	--	0	--
2009	GB	14	1	25	19	6	1.0	--	1	--	--	--	--	--	0	--
TOTAL				129	90	39	10.5	0	8	--	--	--	--	--	0	1

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Thanks.

That will certainly help me as I'm often posting tabular Stat's.

[Joemailman]

In this offense I don't think you pay a Center big bucks unless he's truly elite and you drafted him from day one. EDS is fine but if he's going to get the big bucks I'd let him go as well

I agree. I think EDS is just average. I know Rodgers would like some continuity at Center. However, if the Packers don't replace EDS this year, they will be looking for an upgrade in the near future. So the best way to get continuity in the future might be to go with Tretter or someone else now.

[pittstang5]

In this offense I don't think you pay a Center big bucks unless he's truly elite and you drafted him from day one. EDS is fine but if he's going to get the big bucks I'd let him go as well

I think that's a very good assessment. You can't pay big money to everyone.

I think TT puts a value on certain positions / players. Like you said, if they're elite - he usually pays them. I've often thought TT doesn't put a high value on o-lineman.

EDS is average at best and TT is not going to overpay if he has a player (Tretter) that could be just as good, maybe better. Unfortunately we don't know about Tretter except from what the coaches have said. But what he does in practice might not be the same in real games - see Allen Barbre. It's a crap shoot.

[red]

I've often thought TT doesn't put a high value on o-lineman.

i don't know about that, sitton and lang are both in the top 25 this year for cap hits for guards (sitton 10, lang 22)

next season they'll both be in the top 20 (sitton 11, lang 18)

[Guiness]

i don't know about that, sitton and lang are both in the top 25 this year for cap hits for guards (sitton 10, lang 22)

next season they'll both be in the top 20 (sitton 11, lang 18)

That's kind of interesting, and a shift from what the Packers seemed to do recently.

Going back, the Pack had pretty highly paid guards in Whale and Rivera, and now they do again. In the interim, not so much, but maybe it just wasn't warranted, and now it is. I don't know that it's necessarily a shift in thinking (we all seemed to think TT didn't value guards) as it is a shift in the value of the players at the position.

Red - how did you figure out where they were on the list? Go through the numbers yourself or find it somewhere?

[denverYooper]

I don't know that it's necessarily a shift in thinking (we all seemed to think TT didn't value guards) as it is a shift in the value of the players at the position.

This.

[Patler]

That's kind of interesting, and a shift from what the Packers seemed to do recently.

Going back, the Pack had pretty highly paid guards in Whale and Rivera, and now they do again. In the interim, not so much, but maybe it just wasn't warranted, and now it is. I don't know that it's necessarily a shift in thinking (we all seemed to think TT didn't value guards) as it is a shift in the value of the players at the position.

Red - how did you figure out where they were on the list? Go through the numbers yourself or find it somewhere?

Between our previous high priced guards and our current high priced guards, he signed a relatively high profile FA at the time who flopped, invested a second round pick in Colledge and a third round pick in Spitz. Colledge and Spitz weren't particularly high priced at the time because they were on their rookie contracts, but certainly the draft picks used to get them were significant. If Spitz hadn't become injury prone, I think he would have gotten a nice second contract at either guard or center. Just couldn't stay on the field. Colledge just turned out to be too inconsistent. Either or both probably would have gotten Sitton and Lang type contracts if they had performed well enough.

[mraynrand]

he signed a relatively high profile FA at the time who flopped

Adrian Klemm, I presume?

a third round pick in Spitz.