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  • #31
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    I hated him on draft day. Looked like a plodder, but I have liked him when he is healthy. I think the emergence of Andy Mulumba may make Neal expendable.
    When is that emergence going to take place?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by hoosier View Post
      When is that emergence going to take place?
      Two plays before his knee injury.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        [QUOTE=woodbuck27;767945]
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post

        Would Green Bay Packer History have ever changed if the Pack had the NO. 1 pick when Troy Aikman was up and picked him as their franchise QB.
        If aikman was in gb I doubt they would have favre and maybe not Rodgers because they would have needed to find a replacement sooner. So in my mind it worked out. However at the time it would have been pretty cool to hear aikman to sharpe.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Little Whiskey View Post

          If aikman was in gb I doubt they would have favre and maybe not Rodgers because they would have needed to find a replacement sooner. So in my mind it worked out. However at the time it would have been pretty cool to hear aikman to sharpe.
          would aikmen have had as good of a career if he didn't have one of the best o-lines of all time in front of him?

          i would say, emmits career was greatly improved by running through holes that were 15 yards wide

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          • #35
            Emmit and Irvin were more talented than Aikman, but none would be in the HoF without that OL or without eachother. That's most true of Aikman, however.

            Matt Ryan is this generation's Troy Aikman.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
              Emmit and Irvin were more talented than Aikman, but none would be in the HoF without that OL or without eachother. That's most true of Aikman, however.

              Matt Ryan is this generation's Troy Aikman.
              Aikman had a gun compared to Ryan though.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                When is that emergence going to take place?
                I would say for a rookie FA, he made a fine backup. He was forced to play way too much, but I am comfortable with him backing up clay and perry next year. Emergence doesn't have to mean stud, in the case of an undrafted guy, serviceable would be a breakout.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  I would say for a rookie FA, he made a fine backup. He was forced to play way too much, but I am comfortable with him backing up clay and perry next year. Emergence doesn't have to mean stud, in the case of an undrafted guy, serviceable would be a breakout.
                  Sounds like you are backing away from the "make Neal expendable" idea here. Neal was actually their second most productive OLB this year, I don't think a serviceable backup would make him expendable.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Little Whiskey View Post

                    If aikman was in gb I doubt they would have favre and maybe not Rodgers because they would have needed to find a replacement sooner. So in my mind it worked out. However at the time it would have been pretty cool to hear aikman to sharpe.
                    Barry Sanders was available at #2.

                    Sanders, Favre, defense led by Reggie White, man, that's 4 Super Bowl victories, tops - 6 with a healthy Sharpe.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Rodgers12 View Post
                      Barry Sanders was available at #2.

                      Sanders, Favre, defense led by Reggie White, man, that's 4 Super Bowl victories, tops - 6 with a healthy Sharpe.
                      I wouldn't disagree but the HC and his company would have had to reach inside of Brett Favre and do so in terms of getting him to not try so hard in Big Games. To simply stay calm and believe ... not force it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                        Sounds like you are backing away from the "make Neal expendable" idea here. Neal was actually their second most productive OLB this year, I don't think a serviceable backup would make him expendable.
                        Well, if you believe Neal is better than Perry, then Perry would be the expendable one. All things healthy I think Neal and Perry are a push...starters, but barely. Mulumba is a backup...solid.

                        Edit: Neal is the FA, which is why I said he is expendable. I see Mathews/Perry starting and Mulumba as a backup. If Perry had been the FA and Neal were under contract I would probably say Perry is expendable. I'm not backing away from anything really, I still think either Neal or Perry are expendable because they will cost too much as backups. If Mulumba couldn't even backup, then you would be forced to pay one of them. That is the entire line of my thinking, but I somehow think its less clear now than before.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #42
                          I can't imagine Neal getting paid much of anything. This is, what, his 4th year, and the first year where he didn't miss significant time? Plus he's one test away from a year suspension.

                          Beyond that, if the OLBs are the straw that stirs the drink, then they need quality back-ups. Between Clay, Neal and Perry, you're pretty much guaranteed to miss a total of 20ish games.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                            I can't imagine Neal getting paid much of anything. This is, what, his 4th year, and the first year where he didn't miss significant time? Plus he's one test away from a year suspension.

                            Beyond that, if the OLBs are the straw that stirs the drink, then they need quality back-ups. Between Clay, Neal and Perry, you're pretty much guaranteed to miss a total of 20ish games.
                            I have a hunch he gets a Walden like deal, and that is too much to pay a backup borderline starter.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              I have a hunch he gets a Walden like deal, and that is too much to pay a backup borderline starter.
                              I think that would be a good deal for the Packers
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                I can't imagine Neal getting paid much of anything. This is, what, his 4th year, and the first year where he didn't miss significant time? Plus he's one test away from a year suspension.

                                Beyond that, if the OLBs are the straw that stirs the drink, then they need quality back-ups. Between Clay, Neal and Perry, you're pretty much guaranteed to miss a total of 20ish games.
                                Some of the beat writers think Neal will get a lot of interest in FA. I don't know. I could see some where teams might him at OLB in a 3-4 and others at DL in a 4-3. Neal said he could either bulk up or drop weight depending on where he plays.
                                It seems like TT just drafted the guy, and he was always injured, but he played in every game this season.
                                I sure wouldn't offer him Walden money...but someone might. They still have CM3, Perry, Mulumba, and Palmer. One more OLB and they should be ok.

                                TT will make Kevin Greene's life a living hell by bringing in a half dozen UDFA's and tell him to find a couple of week 13 starters from the bunch.
                                That must be TT's plan to get rid of Capers -- drive him and the D coaching staff crazy by stocking the talent with misfits, projects, and UDFA's.

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