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  • #91
    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
    Which needs would those be, and which players filled those needs in FA? DJ Williams, Austin Collie, or Matthew Mulligan?
    How about Blount? Mulligan played 33 of the 73 snaps against the Colts. Collie had a huge reception. NE lost Welker, Green-Ellis and Woodhead and had huge injuries as TE and NT, yet somehow never missed a beat. Must be doing something right.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
      How about Blount? Mulligan played 33 of the 73 snaps against the Colts. Collie had a huge reception. NE lost Welker, Green-Ellis and Woodhead and had huge injuries as TE and NT, yet somehow never missed a beat. Must be doing something right.
      Blount was a trade 2 years ago and would have not had that kind of game against San Fran's D.

      I wish the Packers had kept Mulligan.

      Jarrett Boykin was an FA and >>> Collie.

      NE missed beats. You just weren't listening.
      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
        Blount was a trade 2 years ago and would have not had that kind of game against San Fran's D.

        I wish the Packers had kept Mulligan.

        Jarrett Boykin was an FA and >>> Collie.

        NE missed beats. You just weren't listening.
        Both teams have been doing well over the past 20 years. NE is 237-114. We are 220-128-1. NE went to Super Bowl 5 times and won three. We went three times and won two. I guess that's a few beats we missed compared to them. Still, we're nitpicking and that's what we do this time of year.
        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
          Hoody Genius gives NE an advantage week in and week out

          DEAR MR MANNING

          Hoody is coming for you !!!
          I still stand by parcells as best ever...but that isn't why I am posting. Anyone notice that Hoody won't pay skill guys. He lines up crap and retreads at RB and WR and gets er done with a strong OL and great QB. I'm just saying. I keep saying its the OL, not the RB, and hoody proves my point. I want our OT to be healthy, but I wouldn't cry if TT used his only big FA signing on a monster tackle and lets JJones walk. Don't reup Jordy, franchise him once. Keep getting the Jarrett Boykins of the world to produce with Rodgers throwing it to them, and run the ball well. With a great OL, I think Rodgers can make guys like Edelman look great same as Brady.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #95
            Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
            Which needs would those be, and which players filled those needs in FA? DJ Williams, Austin Collie, or Matthew Mulligan?
            Austin Collie is one good hit away from creating another national scene as to whether he is brain dead or not.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #96
              Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
              Belichick would have used Datone Jones more often and more effectively.

              I watched Chandler Jones and Cameron Jordan play so well yesterday and saw Datone Jones in a year or 2. As long as Green Bay's SC staff keeps their hands off of him, he'll be a terror.
              I agree with this. YOu gotta play the young man and take some lumps with him.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #97
                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                I still stand by parcells as best ever...but that isn't why I am posting. Anyone notice that Hoody won't pay skill guys. He lines up crap and retreads at RB and WR and gets er done with a strong OL and great QB. I'm just saying. I keep saying its the OL, not the RB, and hoody proves my point. I want our OT to be healthy, but I wouldn't cry if TT used his only big FA signing on a monster tackle and lets JJones walk. Don't reup Jordy, franchise him once. Keep getting the Jarrett Boykins of the world to produce with Rodgers throwing it to them, and run the ball well. With a great OL, I think Rodgers can make guys like Edelman look great same as Brady.
                I don't know. I think you underestimate Hoody/Brady and over-estimate Stubby/Rodgers. Hoody is not married to any particular system or game plan. He adjusts to fit the players he has, then finds the missing but necessary pieces to make it work. Seems like Stubby sticks to his idea of the way things should be done and doesn't adjust. Stubby is an ideologue; Hoody is pragmatic.

                Two examples, Stubby will never abandon his emphasis on throwing downfield trying to make big plays. He tried it even when Rodgers, Cobb and Jones were hurt. Hoody went that route a few years ago then switched strategy to match his personnel. Now he's a dink and dunk, rushing offense.

                Second, I think Stubby is married to the 3-4 defense despite his personnel because that's what he believes in. A few years ago Hoody switched to a 4-3 for typical, pragmatic reasons:
                "We wanted a lot of carryover between our run responsibilities and run fits, and some of our pressure defenses and things like that. We'll transition and build into some of our odds fronts, but we felt like in trying to evaluate young players, asking them to learn one system in a 3-4 and then learn another system in nickel [was too much]. As you know, we were in nickel defense just as much as we were 3-4 defense because of teams using multiple receivers on early downs and two-minute and all those kind of things.

                "So we felt like it would be a better opportunity to evaluate our players and not try to over-install and put in a ton of defense. Try to cut it down a little bit and see if we could execute it better. Certainly, we have a long way to go but I do feel like we're making progress, and I think our players at least understand what we're doing.

                "There are so many intricacies to a 3-4 defense that I just didn't know if we'd be ready to handle them this year. Probably wouldn't have been, to be honest with you."


                I think the 3-4 is here to stay in Green Bay as long as Stubby is here, despite the fact that TT's youthful team-building philosophy contradicts what Capers needs to make the 3-4 work well.

                Just my opinion.
                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                  Perhaps slocum is "guest" coaching.
                  Actually, that play is one of the few things he can teach. Onside and trick plays have been OK. Day in day out competence has been fleeting.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #99
                    Maxie, great find on that bit. Precisely the kind of tinkering that might help a young D and solve some of the split personality of the D line.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Maxie, great find on that bit. Precisely the kind of tinkering that might help a young D and solve some of the split personality of the D line.
                      I think you're right, but will Stubby?
                      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                      • I also think Carolina is going to beat SF Fortywhiners.
                        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                        • OMG

                          i LOVE carolinas defense

                          they just tried to break crabtrees neck, they did just break the fullbacks leg, and they tried to fuck up gore on his one catch

                          and they drilled kap

                          they're just trying to kick the shit out of the 9ers

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                          • and that is a horrible penalty

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                            • and there is how you have safety help on davis

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                              • And once again the refs change the course of history.
                                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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