Who Should TT Pick In 1st Round? - Pre-Senior Bowl Edition

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That can't be right. You thinking of that Cyprien guy who went to Jacksonville?

yup, you're right. cyprien was the other guy still there

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speed isn't everything for a safety, its nice, but not necessary

cam chancellor ran a 4.62, and the guy who i think all of us would take in a second, jairus byrd, ran a 4.68

if TT is dead set on his size/speed thing, then we're in trouble. because our guys aren't big, they're not fast, and they haven't been very good the last few drafts

[pbmax]

speed isn't everything for a safety, its nice, but not necessary

cam chancellor ran a 4.62, and the guy who i think all of us would take in a second, jairus byrd, ran a 4.68

if TT is dead set on his size/speed thing, then we're in trouble. because our guys aren't big, they're not fast, and they haven't been very good the last few drafts

I know Chancellor does not, but does Byrd play deep single safety?

What were Ryan Clark's speed numbers?

[3irty1]

Elam and Cyprien would certainly have been upgrades for us but both on draft day and in retrospect I'd say they were a far shot from BPA for our first round pick.

Kam Chancellor is still pretty fast considering his size but more importantly I'm not sure he'd be Kam Chancellor if he didn't have Earl Thomas as a compliment.

Byrd ran a 4.68 but he also ran a 1.53 10 yard dash and put up an excellent 6.75 3-cone. He's not going to win many races past the mailbox but he's still one hell of an athlete. World class ball skills don't hurt either.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you have probowl hopes for a safety, speed matters a lot. Since 2001 the average 40 time for a probowl safety is 4.46. Byrd's time is by far the slowest, but the next slowest guy to make multiple pro bowls is Ed Reed with a 4.57.

[mraynrand]

as an aside - I recall someone repeatedly pointing to how great Elam was for injuring Cobb (Rodgers12/Tank). Same Elam guy gave up a 50 yarder to Finley when Ravens needed a stop (go Finley!).

Ted wants a free safety with some speed, and that guy isn't there in the first round. I suspect there are going to be a lot of very unhappy campers here come draft day.

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so, elam gave up 1 50 yarder in 1 game

our safeties gave up like 3 of those every game

[mraynrand]

so, elam gave up 1 50 yarder in 1 game

our safeties gave up like 3 of those every game

when it mattered, he blew it.

[smuggler]

Guess wh got burned on Lynch's long TD run in the NFC Championship? That's right. Eric Reid. Tur s out rookie safeties fuck up.

[Fritz]

Guess wh got burned on Lynch's long TD run in the NFC Championship? That's right. Eric Reid. Tur s out rookie safeties fuck up.

Let's move on to this year's college safeties! Who's Ted gonna draft?

[Zool]

Let's move on to this year's college safeties! Who's Ted gonna draft?

Someone who's going to fuck up.

[RashanGary]

i like calvin pryor. Hes a friggin tone setter, probably one of the biggest hitting safeties ive seen come out. You hate to pass up on a big, but with the undeniable success of teams with elite safety play, you hate to pass up on one of those too.

[Fritz]

Me, I'd prefer someone like Dix to play center field so Burnett can be freed up to play around the line of scrimmage more.

[RashanGary]

Me, I'd prefer someone like Dix to play center field so Burnett can be freed up to play around the line of scrimmage more.

Fritz, imget that, i do. ive just started to look at this draft and ive changed my tune a little over the pyears. I used to look for ideal qualities that would fit an ideal scinerio. Now i look for impact players. pryor looks like an impact guy, a stud. I wasnt expecting to like pryor, but inwatched him play and visions of having a killer in our secondary went through my mind. I like his game, looks like a difference maker more than haha.

[smuggler]

I have a feeling we'll take Terrence Brooks in the 3rd or 4th round.

As far as Nix/Tuitt/Hageman, I can say that Nix is the most eloquent of the three, and that Tuitt and Nix are both more... cerebral... than Hageman. That doesn't always mean much, though.

[Fritz]

Johnny Jolly never struck me as a Mr. Wizard type of dude, but he apparently knew enough to knock down passes and mix chemicals successfully.