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  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    And he trashed Gutes for not offering him a big contract. Gutes is looking smarter each passing week.


    anybody who thought the Lizard was a #2/#3 WR in the NFL should watch his routes last year and compare them with Reed/Wicks/.

    Lizard is a great guy; he's a nice guy...who should be making about minimum wage (WHICH IS A LOT OF CHING) in the NFL
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      So . . . I'm trying to work out your phrasing. You're NOT sad that the coverage does NOT contain everything that Rodgers says, is what I think you wrote. So you're happy not to be reading everything he pronounces upon, right?

      I find it much more entertaining and satisfying to read what he says now that he's part of another organization.

      As Bobble said, Guter is looking smarter and smarter as this plays out.

      Especially in the last seven or eight weeks.

      Last year's draft class, IF those players continue to grow and develop, will go down as an all-time best for the Packer organization, a once-in-a-lifetime draft.

      Now my dream is that the Packers deal Bakhtiari to the Jest for a fourth-rounder or something.
      Yup. Rodgers is a great thrower of the football but otherwise a douchey dipshit. I'm glad Packers don't have that distraction in the locker room or in the press. I'd rather read about how the team is playing.
      Reading about it with a perspective that it's a different organization - and one in a major media area - is kind of funny, and provides cringey entertainment.

      Gute took a very big gamble on Jordan Love, and if it didn't pan out we'd be talking about QBs in the draft, possibly with a new GM and HC. His '22 and '23 drafts are looking very promising as well. He likely bought himself a few more years with the team.
      For a while I thought MLF might land on the hot seat, especially when this team was looking at potentially dropping SD, KC, etc. and being 3-9, but he's done pretty good work figuring out what some of these guys can do and getting them to do it. Not many coaches survive 2 losing seasons, he doesn't have that problem either. What will be a problem are expectations for next year. People are going to expect this team to win 11 games and that's no gimme. They still have some cap, roster and coaching issues to sort out... and they won't sneak up on anyone next year. Should be exciting though.

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      • With the firing of Belichik in NE, the Pats need a new coach and a GM. They've decided (supposedly) to go with no GM and split the duties btw two front office types. One of those guys is former Packer FO type Eliot Wolf, son of Ron.

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        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          I wonder what kind of compensation pick the Packers will get. I think the formula used to be based on salary and performance, but that a couple of years ago they made the performance piece less applicable. But I don't know.
          5th rounder... allegedly. We'll see.

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          • R5 sounds about right for Lazard.
            I figured his ceiling was a WR2 at best but WR3 most likely. I lost no sleep when he left GB for NYJ, but even I admit to overvaluing him on the GB roster.
            Yes, Rodgers was saying he was a WR1 to start last year, but that was bonkers. Lazard isn't a separator, he's not speedy, he's big and smart and if you scheme him open or the defense sleeps on him, he gets results.

            He's not worth 10-11M a year though. What he does has value, but you can find players that do what he does for much less. Malik Heath can do a lot of the same things as a UDFA, which tells me I overvalued Lazard as a Packer. He's really more like a solid WR4 who you bring in on 4 or 5 wide sets or to block or play ST.

            Seeing how MLF has adapted his offense this year to work Reed in is a welcome change. They've needed players who are more dynamic with the ball in their hands for a few years.

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            • Former Packers playing or coaching in Super Bowl:

              49ers: LB Oren Burks
              LS Taybor Pepper
              LB coach Johnny Holland

              Chiefs: WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling
              DL Mike Pennel
              Head coach Andy Reid
              OLB coach Ken Flajole
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • Never should have let Pennel go. He is a load inside. He carved out a nice little career for himself.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • The New York Jets have made wide receiver Allen Lazard available in trade talks this offseason, according to The Athletic. However, a major hurdle for the Jets in getting any sort of potential deal done will be Lazard's contract.

                  Lazard is only entering Year 2 of an original four-year $44 million deal that he signed with the Jets last offseason.
                  Did the Jets consult AR about this???

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                  • Maybe when they made this decision, Joe Douglas said "Hey Aaron, you mind just, uh, letting Allen know we've decided to move on from him? It'll come off better, coming from you."
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • Nobody is giving up anything to inherit a terrible contract for Lazard.

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                      • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                        Nobody is giving up anything to inherit a terrible contract for Lazard.
                        Agree. Why would they?
                        He's 28, had a 46.9 catch percentage and a career-low 22.2 receiving yards per game last year, and made more money than GB's WR's combined. Half of his $44M contract is guaranteed.

                        How much does he have left in the tank? Is he anything more than a good WR3 or WR4? Assuming Rodgers doesn't skip football to play VP candidate, he should have a modest bounceback season, but I don't think you're getting more than 40 catches from him.

                        I doubt NYJ can trade him. They probably convert some of his salary to bonus, cut him after the season and eat the dead cap. Yuck.

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                        • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                          Agree. Why would they?
                          He's 28, had a 46.9 catch percentage and a career-low 22.2 receiving yards per game last year, and made more money than GB's WR's combined. Half of his $44M contract is guaranteed.

                          How much does he have left in the tank? Is he anything more than a good WR3 or WR4? Assuming Rodgers doesn't skip football to play VP candidate, he should have a modest bounceback season, but I don't think you're getting more than 40 catches from him.

                          I doubt NYJ can trade him. They probably convert some of his salary to bonus, cut him after the season and eat the dead cap. Yuck.
                          Maybe the, uh, Bears.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Maybe the, uh, Bears.
                            Even the Bears aren't that stupid, or are they?

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                            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Maybe the, uh, Bears.
                              Why? They have Tyson Bagent.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • Patrick Taylor signing with 49ers.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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